Nice to see the PG27AQDP appeared. The new 480Hz monitors def. need to be tested. So besides this may LG LW27PHC / CM GZ2713 / Acer X27U. It mostly would be interesting if any would come glossy (afaik yet none announced but there could have been late changes based on recent succes) and what to prefer if not - 480Hz or Glossy on the XG27AQDMG. I guess that will be the decision 2024 (in WQHD).
Of course also BFI 240/480Hz and if it has gsync pulse now.
And may the cooling - general in test a real heatmap - how likely they will have problems with temps in future?
This monitor was announced and rumored about with a lot of features, which werent shown on last presentation. Like glossy finish, gsync module with gsync pulsar, DP2.1..
It seems like its gonna be very pricy just for the 480hz it will have. Which we might not use properly because it wont come with DP2.1 and BFI mode for 240hz/480hz.
Is BFI working with 240hz/480hz?
Gsync module with gsync pulsar on board?
DP 2.1?
Matte or glossy?
Text clarity?
Luminance? Esp with BFI enabled?
AI features which are usefull and not just gimmicks that no one will ever use?
It would be good to say more about reflection handling and start to measure contrast not in absolutely dark room, but in controlled light environment. For example, there is no sence in OLED infinite contrast and super color volume with low Delta E, if qd-oled panels blacks become pinky in moderate light.
So, just like you test motion clarity with different overdrive modes, it would be good to see color and contrast measurements in different light conditions - dark, shadow and bright.
I have a big doubt I don’t know if to buy the pg27aqdp or the pg32ucdp since the pg32ucdp has 4k, but it has 480 hz fhd but people say that in 480hz FHD it looks very blurry or buy the pg27aqdp is that it is out of stock and the pg32 is on sale and I want to buy but if I have to wait a month for the pg27 then I will get it I don’t know what you think?
When testing this monitor, please have a close look at the input lag in ELMB mode (BFI) and how it varies over time. At 120Hz, It is between approx. 11ms and 19ms; at 240Hz, it is between approx. 5ms and 9ms. The absolute numbers depend on the exact measurement method, of course, but the main problem here is the input lag variation of 1/f. How fast the input lag changes over time depends on the difference between the exact refresh rates of the PC’s video signal and the monitor’s internal buffer readout. BTW, this is with firmware version MCM102.
Would be interesting to know how other BFI-capable monitors behave in this regard.
When testing this monitor, please have a close look at the input lag in ELMB mode (BFI) and how it varies over time. At 120Hz, It is between approx. 11ms and 19ms; at 240Hz, it is between approx. 5ms and 9ms. The absolute numbers depend on the exact measurement method, of course, but the main problem here is the input lag variation of 1/f. How fast the input lag changes over time depends on the difference between the exact refresh rates of the PC’s video signal and the monitor’s internal buffer readout. BTW, this is with firmware version MCM102.
Would be interesting to know how other BFI-capable monitors behave in this regard.
Hey I know this monitor is targeted at a specific audience by for the time being I plan to get this one for my PS5 (I plan to build a PC in the near future) I just wanted to know if this new LG panel (WOLED) would make a big difference in terms of response time to my current IPS monitor I’m currently using now. Also does ELMB mode only work with PCs only?
I have a big doubt I don’t know if to buy the pg27aqdp or the pg32ucdp since the pg32ucdp has 4k, but it has 480 hz fhd but people say that in 480hz FHD it looks very blurry or buy the pg27aqdp is that it is out of stock and the pg32 is on sale and I want to buy but if I have to wait a month for the pg27 then I will get it I don’t know what you think?
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Hey I know this monitor is targeted at a specific audience by for the time being I plan to get this one for my PS5 (I plan to build a PC in the near future) I just wanted to know if this new LG panel (WOLED) would make a big difference in terms of response time to my current IPS monitor I’m currently using now. Also does ELMB mode only work with PCs only?
Hey, the response time on an OLED is definitely an upgrade over an IPS monitor. As for the ELMB feature, because we haven’t tested this monitor yet, we don’t know the full capabilities of the ELMB feature.
Should you use this Monitor with DP 1.4 or HDMI 2.1?
Both use DSC. Is there any benefit with HDMI 2.1, which has more bandwith capability and should use less Compression or doesnt it matter at all?
Or are there maybe some downsides to HDMI 2.1 with DSC over DP 1.4?
Should you use this Monitor with DP 1.4 or HDMI 2.1?
Both use DSC. Is there any benefit with HDMI 2.1, which has more bandwith capability and should use less Compression or doesnt it matter at all?
Or are there maybe some downsides to HDMI 2.1 with DSC over DP 1.4?
As long as both are using DSC and you can get the max refresh rate, there are no real big differences, so it depends on your graphics card and its capabilities on which you should choose.
As long as both are using DSC and you can get the max refresh rate, there are no real big differences, so it depends on your graphics card and its capabilities on which you should choose.
Thats what i thought. I would wish for you to test this, if there is any picture quality difference or latency penalty when using each or another. Even if it shouldn’t make a difference.
When there is those 2 options avaiable of HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4, with wich cable do you make those Tests usually?
Thats what i thought. I would wish for you to test this, if there is any picture quality difference or latency penalty when using each or another. Even if it shouldn’t make a difference.
When there is those 2 options avaiable of HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4, with wich cable do you make those Tests usually?
We don’t expect any significant differences in performance between the two connection types, which is why we only test on one, which is DisplayPort.
We don’t expect any significant differences in performance between the two connection types, which is why we only test on one, which is DisplayPort.
I think by default this monitor should be used with hdmi 2.1 since it has more bandwidth? I believe at 1080p you can run it without DSC @ max refresh?
I agree though, that differences are probably minimal, if any. DSC might make a difference though so tests at 1080p @ 480 hz would be interesting in that regard.
I think by default this monitor should be used with hdmi 2.1 since it has more bandwidth? I believe at 1080p you can run it without DSC @ max refresh?
I agree though, that differences are probably minimal, if any. DSC might make a difference though so tests at 1080p @ 480 hz would be interesting in that regard.
Yes exactly, if you’re running at 1080p, then yes using HDMI would it better because it doesn’t require DSC. But once you use a 1440p resolution it needs DSC at the max refresh rate.
I bought this monitor for FPS games. Even with the 4090 you can’t get more than +/- 300fps in COD (at least on my system) for example…would it be worth turning off DSC at 1440p or is it irrelevant?…ty Sir
Hey everyone! We just wanted to give an update to say that the ETA that we will receive this monitor is Oct. 22. So we know everyone is excited to see us test it, and stay tuned in this thread for updates!
I bought this monitor for FPS games. Even with the 4090 you can’t get more than +/- 300fps in COD (at least on my system) for example…would it be worth turning off DSC at 1440p or is it irrelevant?…ty Sir
Without testing the monitor, we don’t know the full HDMI bandwidth. That said, if the bandwidth is 40 or 48 Gbps, then you can turn DSC off when using an HDMI connection and the frame rate is capped at 300 fps. However, it would still need to use DSC with a DP connection.
From my experience - Save yourself the headache of viewing text on a hazy/grainy white background of the PG32UCDP. The AG MLA coating is too aggresive.
For work PG32UCDM is much clearer and FPS gaming PG27AQDP 240 ELMB / 480hz is King.
From my experience - Save yourself the headache of viewing text on a hazy/grainy white background of the PG32UCDP. The AG MLA coating is too aggresive.
For work PG32UCDM is much clearer and FPS gaming PG27AQDP 240 ELMB / 480hz is King.
I have both monitors as well but someone reported that even the XG27AQDMG still has that strange effect of shimmer with 100% APL due to MLA so it wouldn’t matter a whole lot even if the PG27AQDP was glossy.
I have both monitors as well but someone reported that even the XG27AQDMG still has that strange effect of shimmer with 100% APL due to MLA so it wouldn’t matter a whole lot even if the PG27AQDP was glossy.
Agreed. I don’t even notice the MLA coating when gaming. It’s when working, viewing text on a white background it’s so hazy/grainy I would rather revert back to my 27GP950.
PG32UCDM wider colour gamut pop a lot more on single player 4k games and far better viewing text on a white background when working. For FPS I recommend the PG27AQDP with 240 elmb / 480hz.
I got my yesterday, love it. However I upgraded to firmware MCM103 from MCM102 and all the selection items are wrong. E.g: when you select 8 hour reminder for example on the OLED Care reminder it sets it to off and so on, they are all out of sync. All the other menu’s that have options like that are miss indexed too. Poor coming from ASUS, I had to roll back to MCM102.
This monitor impressed me more than my 32GS95UE’s I had for 2 months then sold. Lovely rich colours, super clarity at 480Hz.
There is a lot of Flicker on VRR especially when using frame generation, so I just turn VRR off, my systems is powerful enough. Even Anti-Flicker doesn’t fix it. VRR is a pain really.
I tried updating my firmware but it kept failing. I have no idea why. Did anyone else run into this issue?
Dont bother with MCM103, Read above. Also did you try via the app (and via the usb cable) or did you put the firmware on a FAT32 formatted usb stick then held the joystick button in for 5 seconds?
Dont bother with MCM103, Read above. Also did you try via the app (and via the usb cable) or did you put the firmware on a FAT32 formatted usb stick then held the joystick button in for 5 seconds?
I tried via usb drive. I didn’t know you could do it through the app.
I tried via usb drive. I didn’t know you could do it through the app.
Get the ASUSPG27AQDPFWMCM103andOneKeyUpdate_SOP one and it is a stand alone application. Both work for me. Please do read my comment about the issues with MCM103 though.
Hey, as mentioned above, we expect the monitor to arrive Oct. 22. So we’ll only be able to start testing after that!
WOW! It is taking a whole month later to get your monitor…whereas the rest of the world got theirs…and then all the others who got orders after and got theirs as well?
WOW! It is taking a whole month later to get your monitor…whereas the rest of the world got theirs…and then all the others who got orders after and got theirs as well?
no, not at all, my country still doesn’t have this monitor on sale and that means i can’t get this product with warranty :)
This monitor was announced and rumored about with a lot of features, which werent shown on last presentation. Like glossy finish, gsync module with gsync pulsar, DP2.1..
It seems like its gonna be very pricy just for the 480hz it will have. Which we might not use properly because it wont come with DP2.1 and BFI mode for 240hz/480hz.
Is BFI working with 240hz/480hz?
Gsync module with gsync pulsar on board?
DP 2.1?
Matte or glossy?
Text clarity?
Luminance? Esp with BFI enabled?
AI features which are usefull and not just gimmicks that no one will ever use?
There will be 2 variants of it, the WOLED and the QDOLED, with the WOLED getting matte and QD-OLED getting glossy. Which is so stupid and annoying because the WOLED is the better panel with 1300nits vs the QDOLED’s 1000nits.
When testing this monitor, please have a close look at the input lag in ELMB mode (BFI) and how it varies over time. At 120Hz, It is between approx. 11ms and 19ms; at 240Hz, it is between approx. 5ms and 9ms. The absolute numbers depend on the exact measurement method, of course, but the main problem here is the input lag variation of 1/f. How fast the input lag changes over time depends on the difference between the exact refresh rates of the PC’s video signal and the monitor’s internal buffer readout. BTW, this is with firmware version MCM102.
Would be interesting to know how other BFI-capable monitors behave in this regard.
I’m also very curious about this. The BFI input lag numbers I’ve read from various sources have been worrisome, considering BFI was why I had planned to buy this. I was hoping they could address it with a firmware update. Did you get these numbers from testing yourself or did you find them from various reviewers? If you tested yourself, have you seen any improvement with the 103 firmware?
Nice to see the PG27AQDP appeared. The new 480Hz monitors def. need to be tested. So besides this may LG LW27PHC / CM GZ2713 / Acer X27U. It mostly would be interesting if any would come glossy (afaik yet none announced but there could have been late changes based on recent succes) and what to prefer if not - 480Hz or Glossy on the XG27AQDMG. I guess that will be the decision 2024 (in WQHD). Of course also BFI 240/480Hz and if it has gsync pulse now. And may the cooling - general in test a real heatmap - how likely they will have problems with temps in future?
This monitor was announced and rumored about with a lot of features, which werent shown on last presentation. Like glossy finish, gsync module with gsync pulsar, DP2.1..
It seems like its gonna be very pricy just for the 480hz it will have. Which we might not use properly because it wont come with DP2.1 and BFI mode for 240hz/480hz.
we gotta see this one before Christmas rtings
best monitor of all time to date please review soon
New type of panel, warrants a review asap!
We’ve purchased the product and are waiting for it to arrive in our lab.
Thanks for reviewing this so quickly.
Competitive player here. Personally, 32 inch 4k is too big for my liking. I am seeking to replace my 32GS95UE, but do not want to lose 480hz OLED.
Thanks Rtings, really curious about the text clarity improvements as well!
It would be good to say more about reflection handling and start to measure contrast not in absolutely dark room, but in controlled light environment. For example, there is no sence in OLED infinite contrast and super color volume with low Delta E, if qd-oled panels blacks become pinky in moderate light.
So, just like you test motion clarity with different overdrive modes, it would be good to see color and contrast measurements in different light conditions - dark, shadow and bright.
Sometimes contrast of OLED panels become worse than LCD ones: https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/the-oled-black-depth-lie-when-panel-type-and-coating-matters
I have a big doubt I don’t know if to buy the pg27aqdp or the pg32ucdp since the pg32ucdp has 4k, but it has 480 hz fhd but people say that in 480hz FHD it looks very blurry or buy the pg27aqdp is that it is out of stock and the pg32 is on sale and I want to buy but if I have to wait a month for the pg27 then I will get it I don’t know what you think?
When testing this monitor, please have a close look at the input lag in ELMB mode (BFI) and how it varies over time. At 120Hz, It is between approx. 11ms and 19ms; at 240Hz, it is between approx. 5ms and 9ms. The absolute numbers depend on the exact measurement method, of course, but the main problem here is the input lag variation of 1/f. How fast the input lag changes over time depends on the difference between the exact refresh rates of the PC’s video signal and the monitor’s internal buffer readout. BTW, this is with firmware version MCM102. Would be interesting to know how other BFI-capable monitors behave in this regard.
Hey I know this monitor is targeted at a specific audience by for the time being I plan to get this one for my PS5 (I plan to build a PC in the near future) I just wanted to know if this new LG panel (WOLED) would make a big difference in terms of response time to my current IPS monitor I’m currently using now. Also does ELMB mode only work with PCs only?
Hello! If you’re looking for personalized buying advice, this is something that’s only available to those who support us via our insider forums. Otherwise, feel free to check out some of our tools that may be able to help.
Hey, the response time on an OLED is definitely an upgrade over an IPS monitor. As for the ELMB feature, because we haven’t tested this monitor yet, we don’t know the full capabilities of the ELMB feature.
Should you use this Monitor with DP 1.4 or HDMI 2.1? Both use DSC. Is there any benefit with HDMI 2.1, which has more bandwith capability and should use less Compression or doesnt it matter at all? Or are there maybe some downsides to HDMI 2.1 with DSC over DP 1.4?
As long as both are using DSC and you can get the max refresh rate, there are no real big differences, so it depends on your graphics card and its capabilities on which you should choose.
Thats what i thought. I would wish for you to test this, if there is any picture quality difference or latency penalty when using each or another. Even if it shouldn’t make a difference. When there is those 2 options avaiable of HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4, with wich cable do you make those Tests usually?
It would be great if you could test the input lag at 1080p input also (DP or HDMI). …that should be the same right /?
We don’t expect any significant differences in performance between the two connection types, which is why we only test on one, which is DisplayPort.
We’ll look into it!
Thank you much ! Nicholas
I think by default this monitor should be used with hdmi 2.1 since it has more bandwidth? I believe at 1080p you can run it without DSC @ max refresh?
I agree though, that differences are probably minimal, if any. DSC might make a difference though so tests at 1080p @ 480 hz would be interesting in that regard.
Exactly, we don’t expect any significant differences in input lag with a 1080p resolution, which is why we don’t test it.
Yes exactly, if you’re running at 1080p, then yes using HDMI would it better because it doesn’t require DSC. But once you use a 1440p resolution it needs DSC at the max refresh rate.
I bought this monitor for FPS games. Even with the 4090 you can’t get more than +/- 300fps in COD (at least on my system) for example…would it be worth turning off DSC at 1440p or is it irrelevant?…ty Sir
Hey everyone! We just wanted to give an update to say that the ETA that we will receive this monitor is Oct. 22. So we know everyone is excited to see us test it, and stay tuned in this thread for updates!
Without testing the monitor, we don’t know the full HDMI bandwidth. That said, if the bandwidth is 40 or 48 Gbps, then you can turn DSC off when using an HDMI connection and the frame rate is capped at 300 fps. However, it would still need to use DSC with a DP connection.
does using the 24.5 inch mode on 1080p have any cons? ive seen people on youtube say it add latency?
We haven’t tested it yet, so we don’t know, but we’ll look into it!
Hi, any ideas for when your test will be out ? Thanks a lot for your work, much needed before buying
From my experience - Save yourself the headache of viewing text on a hazy/grainy white background of the PG32UCDP. The AG MLA coating is too aggresive.
For work PG32UCDM is much clearer and FPS gaming PG27AQDP 240 ELMB / 480hz is King.
I have both monitors as well but someone reported that even the XG27AQDMG still has that strange effect of shimmer with 100% APL due to MLA so it wouldn’t matter a whole lot even if the PG27AQDP was glossy.
Agreed. I don’t even notice the MLA coating when gaming. It’s when working, viewing text on a white background it’s so hazy/grainy I would rather revert back to my 27GP950.
PG32UCDM wider colour gamut pop a lot more on single player 4k games and far better viewing text on a white background when working. For FPS I recommend the PG27AQDP with 240 elmb / 480hz.
Hey, as mentioned above, we expect the monitor to arrive Oct. 22. So we’ll only be able to start testing after that!
I got my yesterday, love it. However I upgraded to firmware MCM103 from MCM102 and all the selection items are wrong. E.g: when you select 8 hour reminder for example on the OLED Care reminder it sets it to off and so on, they are all out of sync. All the other menu’s that have options like that are miss indexed too. Poor coming from ASUS, I had to roll back to MCM102.
This monitor impressed me more than my 32GS95UE’s I had for 2 months then sold. Lovely rich colours, super clarity at 480Hz.
There is a lot of Flicker on VRR especially when using frame generation, so I just turn VRR off, my systems is powerful enough. Even Anti-Flicker doesn’t fix it. VRR is a pain really.
I tried updating my firmware but it kept failing. I have no idea why. Did anyone else run into this issue?
Dont bother with MCM103, Read above. Also did you try via the app (and via the usb cable) or did you put the firmware on a FAT32 formatted usb stick then held the joystick button in for 5 seconds?
I tried via usb drive. I didn’t know you could do it through the app.
Get the ASUSPG27AQDPFWMCM103andOneKeyUpdate_SOP one and it is a stand alone application. Both work for me. Please do read my comment about the issues with MCM103 though.
WOW! It is taking a whole month later to get your monitor…whereas the rest of the world got theirs…and then all the others who got orders after and got theirs as well?
Where did you purchase from if we might ask? Did you order from overseas…like China or something?
no, not at all, my country still doesn’t have this monitor on sale and that means i can’t get this product with warranty :)
Hey, we ordered it from Newegg, but it was on back order when we ordered it! So we had to wait for it to be in stock before it was shipped.
The product has arrived in our lab, and our testers will start evaluating it soon.
There will be 2 variants of it, the WOLED and the QDOLED, with the WOLED getting matte and QD-OLED getting glossy. Which is so stupid and annoying because the WOLED is the better panel with 1300nits vs the QDOLED’s 1000nits.
HDMI gives me only 240hz without DSC Support on the AQDP… just for info.
I’m also very curious about this. The BFI input lag numbers I’ve read from various sources have been worrisome, considering BFI was why I had planned to buy this. I was hoping they could address it with a firmware update. Did you get these numbers from testing yourself or did you find them from various reviewers? If you tested yourself, have you seen any improvement with the 103 firmware?
Why on earth would the screen finish affect refresh rate?
Really excited about this one