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Excited to see how this compares to other gaming mice in 2023
Excited to see how this compares to other gaming mice in 2023
Me too!
Found the original Superlight felt a bit sloppy on wireless tracking. I’m hoping with the new Sensor Latency test we’ll see an improvement with 2khz reporting with the new model.. Would love to see this line up with The Razer Viper Mini Signature but I have a feeling this will test a bit slower at 2khz.
I’m excited to see how the hybrid mechanical-optical switches affect latency. They have hybrid and optical-only modes which should be interesting to see how they differ in performance.
We so excited to see this new superlight 2 in your lab with nev mechanical-optical switches and 2khz poling rate and most important change 60grams and we recomend by xp booster for silencer k1ll tampliers in assasin mirage
We’ve purchased the product and are waiting for it to arrive in our lab.
Deseando una Review del nuevo modelo !!!!
The product has arrived in our lab, and our testers will start evaluating it soon.
I hadn’t noticed there was already a thread for the superlight. My bad. I’ll copy my message from the other thread here.
So I got the Superlight 2 yesterday, and after playing with it for a few hours I have two observations.
The mouse comes with a new, bigger dongle that does not match the color of the mouse. I’m assuming it’s what makes it capable of supporting 2k poll rate. The mouse while wired however can only support a 1k poll rate. I don’t think anyone will mind it but I think it’s something they’ll likely change in a future firmware update.
Logitech mentions in their website that the mouse has optomechanical lightforce switches. G-Hub shows the switches have the option to toggle between a “hybrid (power saving)” mode and a “optical only” mode. This makes me think that this is indeed a fully optomechanical switch that’s capable of actuating based on EITHER an electrical contact or an optical signal like traditional optical switches do. If so this, would make the mouse unique in the market and it’d be interesting to see data on how the two modes impact performance.
Overall the mouse feels nice to hold and the scroll wheel is quieter than the G502 x and G305. The buttons feel very similar to the older lightforce switches. I like it, I think its going to be a solid option for those that are looking for a mouse with that shape.
Our testers have started testing this product; is there anything specific you’re looking to see? Let us know in this thread.
Have the mouse wheel free-scrolling?
Latencias de clic y sensibilidad de movimiento? sensor HERO2 es recomendable? Merece la pena pagar 160 euros?
Seeing as that most reviewers on YouTube have mentioned (at least initially) that the clicks are heavier. Would it be possible to do a test to see the amount of force necessary to actuate the clicks?
I would like to see latency measurements at both 1000Hz and 2000Hz polling rates. The reason is that the 2000Hz mode has a significant impact on battery life and I want to know if disabling it will have any detrimental affect in competitive games.
Early access to our full test results is now available for Insiders! Become an insider to check it out here.
Woah, those SRAV results are really bad
The full review has been posted here. Let us know what you think!
So I got the Superlight 2 yesterday, and after playing with it for a few hours I have two observations.
Can you change SL2 mouse settings (DPI/etc) using the Onboard Memory Manager software or do you NEED the G Hub software? https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/15235287874455-Download-G-PRO-X-SUPERLIGHT-2-Lightspeed-Gaming-Mouse
comment deletedNot possible. Click heaviness changes drastically with time / use and sample variation
They literally have a new version of test bench introducing this testing… https://www.rtings.com/mouse/learn/research/tactile-force
They literally have a new version of test bench introducing this testing… https://www.rtings.com/mouse/learn/research/tactile-force
You didn’t read the article
“Variation in results due to manufacturing variance between individual switches of the same make and model”
Right there are the bottom.
People really like to confirm their biases by looking at a review and focusing on one issue. SRAV results are just slightly less good than before. I would highly assume that even this can be adjusted to as the difference in accuracy is consistent. All other aspects of the mouse are better than the previous generation. Less click latency, more reliable clicks, less sensor latency, better sensor accuracy in some aspects.
Hi Rtings! , I’ve noticed you guys using beagle 480 protocol analyzer in mouse testing. And I got a question in this. Does it support above-1,000Hz setting like windows? Does it communicate device under test(the mouse) correctly at maximum polling rate?
I’d appreciate your answer!
Update: We’ve added a link to the newly-reviewed Vaxee XE Wireless in the Configuration Software section of this review.
is there been an software update to the sensor to address the CPI error? is there any motion to retest the CPI ? since black friday the price has dropped here and i would consider upgrading if the sensor was more precise then the ultralight 1
Update: We’ve converted this review to Test Bench 1.5. This update adds a new Main Button test group, which provides button actuation data and switch information. We’ve also made minor changes to how we calculate the Office usage score. For more details, you can see our full changelog here.
is there been an software update to the sensor to address the CPI error? is there any motion to retest the CPI ? since black friday the price has dropped here and i would consider upgrading if the sensor was more precise then the ultralight 1
Hey Chris007! I grabbed our unit so I can look into this for you, and it seems like they haven’t push any updates to this mouse yet. I can confirm that the latest Firmware is the same Firmware we tested initially (FW: 32.0.12).
Thank you for reaching out! and I hope this information helps you out.
Yes thank you very much :)
Update: We’ve updated the CPI graph displayed in the Sensor Latency section of this review. Our results remain the same, but these graphs have two new columns with results from the Delay At Half Movement and Delay To End Of Movement tests.
Thanks for the updated Sensor Latency results.
Those results columns should be part of all mice testology :)
I’m wondering… will they (logitech) trying to improve SRAV to more accurate 0 trough updates or it’s not possible bc of the hardware ?
When i see these SRAV differences between sl1 and sl2 i can not force myself to change the mouse (i’m on sl1 atm)
Regards
I’m wondering… will they (logitech) trying to improve SRAV to more accurate 0 trough updates or it’s not possible bc of the hardware ? When i see these SRAV differences between sl1 and sl2 i can not force myself to change the mouse (i’m on sl1 atm) Regards
Hey there!
While we can’t say for sure what Logitech is capable of doing in this situation, it’s entirely possible future firmware updates could improve performance.
To be clear, this mouse is a top-tier wireless gaming option, and these minor SRAV imperfections won’t be noticeable in-game and are extremely unlikely to meaningfully impact gaming performance for most people, so we’d certainly still recommend this mouse to anyone interested in it.
That said, for those who already have an original Logitech G PRO X SUPERLIGHT like yourself, we don’t generally feel the new version justifies an upgrade, given its current performance.
But to reiterate, we’ll be on the lookout for any indication from Logitech or the community with any future firmware updates that might increase performance so we can run a retest ourselves and update our review if necessary.
Thanks for taking the time to reach out.
thanks a lot !
Update: We’ve added a link to the newly reviewed Corsair M75 AIR in the Hand Size Recommendation section of this review.
Hi, there has been an update today for the mouse and receiver and it now supports 4000hz wireless polling rate. Will you update the test in the near future for this?
bros, i wish they would make this mouse ambidextrous and more ergonomically shaped, my thumb, my arm and shoulder are killing me and interfering with workout. it is weird having 2 mouse, one for fps and one for everything else.. and with quiet keys :)
Hi Rtings Diego/Greg/Crew
https://twitter.com/LogitechG/status/1765467475079033223
SL GPX2 4kHz firmware update soon.
“increase your response rate to 4kHz for free. Once you update the firmware, you’ll be able to access the higher polling rate using your existing wireless dongle. ”
thanks :)
Hi Rtings Diego/Greg/Crew https://twitter.com/LogitechG/status/1765467475079033223 SL GPX2 4kHz firmware update soon. “increase your response rate to 4kHz for free. Once you update the firmware, you’ll be able to access the higher polling rate using your existing wireless dongle. ” thanks :)
Hey cattboy, thank you for reaching out! We do have plans to retest the SL2 with the new firmware when it becomes available.
Hey , if you can guys test the new 4000hz polling rate on the( g pro superlight 2
Could you please measure the sensor latency of this mouse at 500, 1khz at 400DPI?
Could you please measure the sensor latency of this mouse at 500, 1khz at 400DPI?
Hello Rumad, We’ve already measured and published the data for this mouse configured at a 1000 Hz polling rate, including when set to 400 CPI. Sensor latency data (1000Hz, 400 DPI): Delay To Start Of Movement: 12.4 ms Delay At Half Movement: 2.0 ms Delay To End Of Movement: 0.9 ms
We currently do not plan to start testing mice at lower polling rates. However, I will convey your suggestion/request to the test development team. If there is sufficient demand, we may consider incorporating it into our next test bench.
Hey all, We’re still working on the update to the review that includes the results for performance at 4000Hz polling rate. Stay tuned, the new results will be up soon.
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I’m hoping we see a before and after update comparison of the current 1000 and 2000Hz options as well. Maybe improvements or maybe the same, worst case the update makes those options worse
I’ve noticed something worrying on the new 4000Hz-enabled firmware — there seems to be at least 7ms of click latency! This is based on my own testing which isn’t extremely solid - I’m using a 960fps slow mo camera and counting frames for click to photon latency. But I’m consistently seeing a much higher latency than expected — in cs2, overwatch 2 and aperturegrille’s “black to white” latency testing program, I am consistently seeing 6-9ms of additional latency when firing via the mouse vs firing via my keyboard (Wooting two HE). I don’t think this was an issue before! Is this something you could double check?
By the way, I tried on 1000Hz mode and 4000Hz mode, and the behavior didn’t change.