The Samsung JS9000 SUHD 4k TV has excellent picture quality both in a dark and a bright room. If you don't mind the loss of color at an angle and it is within your budget, get this TV.
- Wider color gamut
- Good uniformity
- Great gaming TV (low input lag and motion blur)
- Great overall picture quality in both a dark and a bright room
The Samsung JS9000 is pretty eye-catching, thanks to its curved screen and gray back, and its stand is nice and stable. The bezel is not the thinnest, though.
While this TV did outperform all the others this year, the Sansungs JS8500 is a similar option that comes for a good deal cheaper. You pay a lot for a curved screen, so if that's not a 'must' for you, consider saving money with a flat TV.
Dimensions for 55" TV stand: 35.5" by 13.5".
2.83" (7.2 cm)
This is a pretty good TV for watching Movies and regular shows. The blacks aren't the darkest, but they're dark enough to get the job done. The uniformity is really good, though. We hardly had any cloudiness when watching dark scenes, which is great.
The HDR, 3D, and motion smoothing features are nice extras, too, for those who are looking for them.
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The native contrast ratio of this TV is good. Turning on 'Smart LED' doesn't change the measurement on our checkboard pattern.
The edge-lit local dimming's zones are big, because the LEDs are located on the left and right sides of the TV.
SDR Peak 2% Window
SDR Peak 50% Window
The maximum luminosity of a 2% white window is not really impressive, even with 'Smart LED' set to 'High'.
As with the JS8500, the JS9000's edge-lighting backlight is really great at getting rid of the dirty screen effect (small darker patches). The top and bottom center edges are slightly darker, but it shouldn't be an issue.
The picture quality when you view at an angle is not as great as what you get from directly in front.
Update 01/06/2017: We have changed the methodology of testing. Since this is an old TV which we don't have anymore, we extrapolated the results from 2016 TVs.
Native Std. Dev.
It has a few clouding spots, but nothing major. If you get one with major black uniformity issues, don't forget to apply slight pressure and massage the area with a dry cloth, and then let the TV sit for a few days. This often solves uniformity issues.
DVDs and SD channels looks as good as they can on this TV.
Cable TV also looks good once upscaled.
As with all Samsung TVs, the 1080p upscaling doesn't produce a soft picture.
4k Material looks great on this TV.
Like all Samsung JS series TVs, setting the colorspace to 'Native' increases the color gamut. For normal content, we don't recommend this, because it will produce over-saturated colors.
Samsung's glossy finish is great at reducing the ambient reflections, and thus increasing the perceived contrast ratio when you have a few lights on. There is a little bit of rainbow glare around bright objects.
This TV can get very bright, but its glossy screen finish won't be ideal if you have windows directly opposite the TV. Your eyes will tend to focus on those outlines.
The 3D is good, with no major crosstalk.
This is a really good TV for sports. There's not much blur, so fast movement will look crisp.
It also has few of the smudgy, dirty-looking patches of discoloration you see in pretty much every LED TV. That's a pretty big deal, considering it's usually in the quick pans of sports filming that you see this sort of defect.
It handles fast motion really well, thanks to its very fast response time.
PWM Dimming Frequency
Judder-free 24p via 60p
Judder-free 24p via 60i
Movies don't have judder when using a 24p source (like a Blu-ray player). However, it doesn't always do the reverse 3:2 pulldown, so you might see a little bit of judder in movies when watching over a 60p or 60i source (like on cable, or some streaming boxes). Of course, turning on 'Auto Motion Plus' solves this, but it adds the soap opera effect.
Motion Interpolation (30 fps)
Motion Interpolation (60 fps)
The JS9000 is a great gaming TV. It hardly has any blur, so even the fastest-paced games are going to look their best. There's also hardly any delay between when you do something in a game and when it appears onscreen, so there won't be much getting in the way when you need to react quickly.
The Samsung JS8500, which is the flat-screen equivalent of the JS9000, has noticeably higher input lag. If you're looking for a high-end TV for gaming, you should opt for the JS9000.
1080p With Interpolation
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4
In game mode, the input lag is very low (23.6 ms). In PC mode, the lag is a bit higher, at 55.8 ms.
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4
It doesn't support an input of 1080p @ 120fps, but handles 4k @ 60 Hz @ 4:4:4 well. For 4:4:4, turn on UHD Color and use PC mode.
Digital Optical Audio Out
Analog Audio Out 3.5mm
1 (incl. adapter, shared)
1 (incl. adapter, shared)
5.1 Passthrough ARC Dolby Digital
5.1 Passthrough ARC DTS
5.1 Passthrough Optical Dolby Digital
5.1 Passthrough Optical DTS
HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwith
Variable Analog Audio Out
Note: Sound Quality test for TVs reviewed before 2017 was performed at 75dB, 85dB, and Max SPL. Starting 2017, the target SPL levels have been changed to 70dB, 80dB, and Max dB SPL.
Std. Dev. @ 70
5.20 dB SPL
Std. Dev. @ 80
5.52 dB SPL
Std. Dev. @ Max
7.33 dB SPL
The loudness and low-end cut off are very good for a TV, but the frequency response is poor. There seems to be pumping present at higher volumes.
Total Harmonic Distortion
The distortion isn't bad at 75 dB SPL. At higher volumes the distortion increases to noticeable amounts, but not as much as some other TVs.
The remote is really good. It would be better if it came with more buttons - you have to use an onscreen keypad to input channels - but the motion and voice features are great ways to navigate quickly. The smart platform itself is likewise really good.
The One Connect box houses the processor and the inputs. Your TV won't be usable if it is not connected, and it's an unfortunate extra bit of clutter. Having this separate does mean, though, that you'll be able to upgrade some of the TV's 'guts' in the future, should you wish to do so.
The included Bluetooth smart remote is great for using the smart features. However, there is no number pad present directly on it, which makes switching channels a bit more cumbersome.
Power Consumption (Max)
The Samsung JS9000 is our overall top rated TV this year. It has picture quality very similar to the cheaper JS8500, which is really great both in a dark and bright room. It outranked the JS8500 in our test suite, thanks to the lower input lag. If you don't care about the input lag, the curve, or the full OneConnect box, you get the same excellent picture quality with the cheaper JS8500.
Questions & Answers
59 ANSWERED QUESTIONS
Please review new LG 65EF9500
OLED 4K HDTV. HDMI 2.0a, HDR, WCG, 4K Upscaling, Video Processing, Etc.
You have the best objective TV reviews on the Web!
Maybe, if we get enough requests for it. For now, the next review is the OLED 55EC9300
, which should be very interesting and give an indication on how the 65EF9500
would perform in our test suite.
: The review of the EF9500
is up, due to popular demand.
What about the difference on octa core from js9000
to quad core of js8500
? Would that be a 500 dollars game changing?
No. The processor is only used for the smart features. It doesn't impact the picture quality.
They have pretty much the same picture quality. The JS9000
has a slightly lower input lag, which is better for gaming, but the JS8500
's input lag isn't bad anyway. If you don't mind the price difference, there is no reason not to get the JS9000. But you can save money by opting with the JS8500 without missing much.
Is HDR tested with the backlight at 20?
Yes, max backlight and we've tried all the local dimming features combination ('Smart LED' and 'Cinema Black').
Why doesn't Rtings review OLEDs?
We do plan to review OLED TVs, but since they're not as popular as LED models, they're lower on our list of priorities.
As of now I can buy a UN65JS9000
for $550 more than the UN65JU7500
. Is the UN65JS9000 worth $550 more? Why or why not? I viewed the two sets side by side and it seemed as if the JU7500
was little "softer", but the TVs were not showing the same content, and I don't know if they had comparable settings.
has HDR capability (highlights can get very bright), can display a wider range of colors (good for the upcoming UHD Blu-rays), and has better gray uniformity (good for sports). Apart from that, the two are about even.
If those upsides are very important to you, get the JS9000. If they're not, the JU7500
will be perfect for your needs.
As per our previous conversation, I ended up purchasing the UN55JS9000
. Love It! (I replaced a Pioneer Plasma that doubled as a heater) I needed a new AVR and purchased a Yamaha that does 4K/60 4:2:0. Not 4:4:4. I'm assuming (which is bad) that by connecting everything to the One Box connect & using the ARC from the receiver output only, the JS9000
will still do the 4:4:4 when using PC mode.
Yes, that should work. Give it a try and let us know how it goes.
I'm shopping for a 4k 65" TV to replace my Sony XBR projection. I've always liked Sony, and though I have smaller Samsungs all over my house I always have thought they were too contrasty.
I'm between a Sony x930c
and a Samsung JS9000
. I've read all the reviews, but cant seem to find a store that has all three operating. I watch movies, sports and regular TV. I don't game. I have Apple TV and will get the new one as soon as it's in the stores. I want the best picture possible, and the easiest smart features for rentals and Netflix. I am a football junkie. My den is fairly bright during the day.
Any suggestions to help me decide?
Get the Samsung JS9000
. It has the best overall picture quality and performance of any TV we have reviewed this year, and its smart features are better than what you get with the Sony x930c
. Use our recommended settings
and the picture should look great.
This is an honest question, but why would you not always leave the JS9000
in game mode if, as you say: "In game mode, the input lag is very low (23.6 ms). In PC mode, the lag is a bit higher, at 55.8 ms."
What is the difference between these modes besides PC mode having nearly twice the input lag?
You can only get chroma 4:4:4 in PC mode. That's something that a lot of PC users want, so for them, the extra bit of lag might be worth it.
I have read other reviews (mostly from owners but from some professional reviewers) that say the one connect box's fans make a annoying noise. Is that your experience or have you read the same comment? Thank you.
The one we have here does make a whining sound but nothing 'annoying'. It will depend on your tolerance to the noise but at least the sound is constant. If you mute the TV you can hear the fan from more than 10 feet away but at a very low volume. Normal TV listening should cover the noise completely.
Which panel model did you get with the JS9000
AHHHH YES!! Thank you for the review. I was in huge debate between this and the JS8500
, but was patiently waiting for the review. The main thing that is concerning me now is the "curve". I will be sitting 10-11 ft away from the TV. I am planning to get the 55" and was wondering if I will feel that "immersive" view?
At that distance, almost definitely not, and even up close, it would be a very minor difference. We go into the curved/flat difference in detail here
I'm trying to decide between the Samsung JS9500
. Since both TVs are fairly expensive, the difference in price will not be a factor in my decision. I do watch a lot of sports, and your reviews seem to suggest that the JS9000 might be better. What are the differences between the models, and is the JS9500 better in any other way?
is better for sports, as it has less blur, and fewer dark patches on the screen. The JS9500
has better HDR (bright highlights) and local dimming (deeper blacks) features, but those aren't so important for sports. You should get the JS9000.
Please review new LG 65EF9500
OLED 4K HDTV. HDMI 2.0a, HDR, WCG, 4K upscaling, Video Processing, Etc.
Ditto! This set should have high priority on your list. Especially with the new pricing which puts it within $500 of a top of the line SUHD Samsung.
We still don't have plan to review that model but we take note of all the requests. Thank you for sharing your interest.
: The review of the EF9500
I recently got this model and love the recommended picture calibration settings. I have been experimenting with the Sports mode since I watch soccer often. The picture is great when the camera zooms into a player or a replay. However, when watching from the standard camera angle, the picture (especially around each player) is blurry. Any suggestions on how to resolve this or change any settings that may be contributing to this? Thanks.
Disable 'Auto Motion Plus' and turn on both 'Digital Clean View' and 'MPEG Noise Filter'. You might want to lower Sharpness to (or close to) 0 as well. Tell us if its any better.
I noticed the firmware is 1217, whereas other Samsung 4ks were tested with 1219. Is this why PC mode is much laggier vs JS8500
's gorgeous 37ms?
Probably not. It is probably due to the full One Connect box, given that the JS9500
had almost the same input lag numbers.
I see that this TV isn't very much different from the JS8500
besides the curve and the full OneConnect Box. I understand that the full OCB has the processor, etc inside of it, whereas the JS8500 just has the OneConnect Mini while the processor is in the TV itself. That said, does the full OCB make this JS9000
more upgradeable than the JS8500? Do you think that the curve and the full OCB are worth the extra $500?
Samsung has indicated that an updated version of both the OneConnect Box and the Mini will be released next year. Technically, yes, the full OneConnect box has more potential for upgradeability, but who knows if Samsung plans to take advantage of that.
We don't think the curve is really worth the upgrade (more on that here
), so we'd recommend going with the JS8500
I am seriously thinking about buying the Samsung JS9000
. I would love to know how far/close I should sit. I want to take advantage of the curve and the 4k.
I don't mind sitting a foot or two away as long as it doesn't make the image look bad. I am new to the TV game, and would love to jump in with this beast.
I want this TV for 3D, HDR, gaming, and movies.
It depends on the size. For 48", 3-6 feet is ideal; for 55", 3.5-7 feet; and for 65, 4-8.5 feet.
Note that those are all for getting the most from genuine 4k material. You might find a bit more distance is more comfortable for 1080p and lower resolutions. You can also consult this page
to see a chart of ideal size to distance ratios.
Just for gaming, both PC and console gaming (mostly PC gaming) and ignoring the price, which one is better, the JS9000
or the JU7500
has slightly less blur, and tiny bit less lag, so it gets the edge. If you're interested in the HDR and wide color gamut features, though, it's worth getting the JS9000
instead. It has nearly the same gaming performance and it packs in those extra features too.
In comparing the picture quality to that of Vizio M-series
, do you think it's on par with the JS900?
is better in a number of ways. It has better gray uniformity and less blur, can display a wider range of colors and HDR content, and has a glossy screen finish, which helps with cutting down on reflected ambient light.
The JS9000 is better if you have the money, but the Vizio M is a very nice alternative for people who want to spend less money and still get really good picture.
Hi, I've been researching the Samsung JS8500
for almost two weeks now. I've shopped around at big box stores and seen deals for "commercial" grade versions of these set at remarkable savings. The savings on the commercial grade sets or sets from Australia are quite substantial. Then the warning bells go off "it's too good to be true! run run run!" So, are those sets the same quality as what one find in BestBuy, etc? Why the differences? What do they mean? Thank you!
This is usually an up-selling trick from online vendors. Try to confirm model number in store if you can. If you shop online, we recommend to buy from authorized resellers
What do you think is a better overall TV, the LG EG9100
or the Samsung JS9000
? Both seem similar.
Purely for overall picture quality, the EG9100
is better. The blacks are perfect, there's less blurring on fast movement, and the color uniformity is really great.
has some other perks, though, like UHD resolution, HDR, and a wider color gamut. It's also better for bright rooms. If you really want any of those features, get the JS9000.
Is the full backlight array of the UN65JS9500
worth an additional grand? I got the UN65JS9000
coming Wednesday, 12-09 & I only paid $2,999 for it on sale & got it with a Square Trade warranty for four yrs for $ 139.00! The bezel is like a 1/2 inch wider than my UN55HU8700, but that's not a game-changer for me. I ain't watching the bezel frame -I'm watching the TV!
No. The JS9000
scored higher on our tests, so unless you really want better local dimming and HDR, there's no advantage to getting the JS9500
. We recommend getting the JS9000.
For the JS8500
, we measured 365 nits (or cd/m2) on a full screen and 526.9 nits for a small white window when HDR is enabled. For the same tests on the JS9500
we got 320.6 and 726.7 respectively and on the JS9000
, 346.7 and 449.4.
The Octa-core from js9000
to the Quad-core from js8500
as far as apps go, how are they affected by the difference?
Both the JS9000
and the JS8500
feel about the same in terms of performance when running applications, so there isn't a big difference.
When you first reviewed the Samsung JS9000
it's overall score was 8.5 and now it's 8.4. What was the cause for the updated lower score? Thank you for the great website and your time reviewing and testing these televisions.
We changed the weighting of some tests, and also added more elements to the score. You can find the new scoring breakdown here
This TV sounds great I thought I had decided on the JU7500
, but the lack of HDR made me lean towards the SUHDs. I also like the JS8500
. I love the look of a curved TV, and I am a gamer. I have never even seen HDR, but this TV sounds like it's doing it wrong.
Is it possible this TV won't even be considered true HDR when it is standardized and I would have to buy a new TV if I wanted to experience real HDR? Ultimately, I guess I am asking whether HDR on this TV is worth upgrading from the JU7500? If yes, should I sacrifice the curve for HDR and get the JS8500? I love the curve.
Yes, it's possible that this TV won't be considered true HDR once the spec is finalized. Since the spec isn't finalized and 'true' HDR has not yet been released, we can't say whether it is worth switching for. If you're mostly interested in the curve, then you might as well just stick with the JU7500
. It's a great gaming TV, and you'll likely be very happy with it.
Will a 4K set upscale a Comcast feed through an HD box better than a 1080p set will? Or will the J6300
upscale this signal just as well as the JS9000
, and X850C
No, 4k isn't a guarantee of better upscaling. For the examples you give, they're all about as good as each other.
Hey, I have a question regarding game mode. Will enabling extra things like local dimming and black level affect input lag on game mode? I turned everything off for fear of getting higher input lag, but a nicer picture would be nice too.
If you can activate a setting within game mode, it's not going to have much effect on input lag, so enable whatever available settings you like.
The following is from official Samsung Sell Guide - RE-MASTERING ENGINE
The S-UHD series has an improved version of Samsung’s own UHD up-scaling technology. It does this by adding an edge enhancement algorithm and the ability to make any content match its advanced color mapping capabilities and expanded color gamut. The Re-mastering Engine can transform conventional 8-bit color into 10-bit by using advanced tone mapping algorithms so the screen will always display 10-bit color. This particular feature can be turned off in movie mode, to preserve the color.
If all your calibrations start with Movie Mode ON then you are disabling this feature. Also do you know what happens when Movie Mode is ON and the TV is receiving 10 bit source content? Does it downgrade to 8 bit, or does it recognize some flag and pass it through as 10 bit. Perhaps you could run test material and see what happens.
Currently, we don't test for 8/10 bit, because it is still very early in the adoption curve (for example, even Blu-rays or Windows are 8 bit right now). So we can't answer your questions with a definite answer. That said, subjectively, color banding is still an issue when you play 8 bit content on this set, whether you turn the wide color gamut feature on or off. For a TV, it is nearly impossible to automatically convert 8 bit to 10 bit and remove the color banding (think of it like resolution upscaling, but for color depth: it doesn't really improve the picture, or at least without a loss of details). So unless the content is natively in 10 bit, it won't really produce a difference. Next year we will probably add a color bit depth test to our reviews.
Out of curiosity, I used the screen-mirroring method of input lag testing on my JS9000
55", and I got 33 ms of input lag on Game mode, and 66 ms on PC mode. I mirrored it against my gaming monitor (LG w2365d), which was supposed to be 0 lag monitor. Any idea why it jumped from 23 ms in this review to my 33 ms when I tested it against my monitor?
My firmware version is 1422. I'm getting ready to return this TV if it can't be explained. Thank you for answering my last question. I really appreciate it.
When taking a photo, the screen mirroring method of testing lag has a variance of 1/the TV's frame rate (so +/-16.6ms if using a 60 hz signal). With video from a high-speed camera, it's 1/the frame rate of the video, provided you look at the individual frames to calculate the amount of variance by the number of frames.
Also, which resolution are you using to test? We're using 1080p, and different resolutions will garner slightly different results.
All that to say, your results are pretty typical. For our measurements, we use a device that is a lot more accurate than the mirroring method. You can read about our process here
No one should ever buy a Samsung product! This is a company that does not stand behind what they make. As soon as you buy a product, they want you to buy the extended warranty (for two years) and pay a ridiculous amount of money for it! That should have been a red flag right there - they are expecting problems right after the first year. The issue with my product occurred only four months after the one year warranty expired. Is there no such thing as standing behind your product? Samsung wants your money and for you to forget about service. It is time for Americans to forget hype and name (which obviously means nothing) and buy from companies that stand behind their products so you are not stuck with a big bill to fix something that should not have broken in the first place!
We're sorry to hear you had such a poor experience. Your situation is pretty rare, but it can happen with all brands, so avoiding Samsung isn't a guaranteed way to avoid similar problems (though you're unlikely to run into this kind of thing again, regardless).
I recently bought the UN65JU7500
for $1799 this past black Friday. I've already returned two of them and I'm probably returning the third. I've had two TH01 panels and both expose their dimming array on light scenes (I.E. scenes with skies) to a point where I can see bright spots uniformly throughout the picture. I also had an IH02 which had significant clouding on each corner shooting towards the center. Is it worth the extra money and going with the UN65JS9000
to possibly solve my gray uniformity issue (and all the other features that come with the JS9000
)? Also, did you notice any flash lighting on your JS9000? My main reason for picking up the UN65JU7500 was low input lag and low blur. I'm coming from a Vizio E70-C3
. Thanks, love your site.
Yes, if you really hate the dirty screen effect (grid problem), the JS9000
is a good upgrade because it doesn't have that issue. Ours didn't had any flashlighting problem, but if yours get some, try the soft cloth massaging trick. It works well on Samsung TVs.
Thinking about the JS9000
. I have a free standing entertainment center and my current 55" Vizio hangs on a wall-type mount. Will the curve in the screen affect the mounting of the JS9000? Will I need spacers or something?
is VESA-compatible, so you should have no issues mounting it. The mount you currently have should work.
You say here in order to get 4:4:4, it has to be in PC mode. But when I have game mode enabled with UHD color turned on, I still get full range RGB. Isn't that 4:4:4? I game on my PC and have a 980ti and it the control panel, it says full RGB. If I turn off UHD color though, it goes down to 4:2:0 (at 4K 60fps. 4K 30fps still says full RGB)
No. Full and limited RGB controls the amount of detail that is present in blacks, with 'Full' offering a bit more detail. Chroma 4:4:4 is separate, and meant there is no compression of the color.
We go into detail about chroma 4:4:4 and its benefits at the bottom of this page
, where we also show some examples of what different chroma values look like.
Hello, I'm an early adopter with UHD blu-ray. I'm lucky enough to already own the UHD-8500 Samsung blu-ray player as well as UHD blu-ray copies of "The Martian" and "Wild". A bunch of us over at AVSforums are having a hard time trying to figure out how to set this up for HDR. When I activate 'Deep Color' on the player and 'UHD HDMI Color' on the TV, the colors appear washed out (my AVR shows I'm displaying 12 bits with deep color on, 10 with it off). With 'Deep Color' and 'UHD HDMI Color' Off I can only get 8 bits. I have not tried PC mode, I'm going to now. Any other suggestions on how to calibrate for HDR? To my eyes, the colors and picture appear more vivid and "HDR like" with 'UHD HDMI Color' and 'Deep Color' off, but I can't help but feel like it's just blowing out sdr into fake HDR.
'HDMI Deep Color' should provide greater color depth as stated in the UHD blur-ray player manual so it should be set to On. Unfortunately, we still haven't received our UBD-K8500 UHD player from Amazon. Until we get it, we can't provide any more information as to how to set it up with the JS9000. We will update this when we get the player.
Update: After using the UBD-K8500 UHD player for a while, we have best results with 'HDMI Color Format' set to 'Auto', 'HDMI Deep Color' set to 'Auto' and with the 'Picture mode' set to 'Standard'. Those specifics setting should be good for any TVs.
Is this correct, the JS8500
has higher brightness-nits then the JS9000
Yes, the JS8500
had a higher brightness for the 2% window and also for the 50% window. That said, the difference is only of 78cd/m² for the 2% window and 18cd/m² for the 50% windows and knowing that you start to really notice a difference at around 100cd/m², you can technically say that the JS8500 is more bright, but in fact it is really close.
From a Picture Quality perspective which will you say has the better picture between the JS8500
All those TVs have a very similar picture quality. Go with the Samsung KS8500
if you want the TV with the highest peak brightness and with the Samsung JS9500
if you want the TV with the best local dimming.
I recently purchased the 48 inch JS9000
, and it has a 30 day return policy. I got a really good deal on it for $800. My concern is that right now the 49 inch KS8500
is only $1200 at Best Buy, and around Black Friday there is always that possibility that it could be marked down as a door buster for $800 as well. Is there a big enough difference between the two picture wise that I would be better off taking a chance and waiting on the KS8500, or is the picture similar enough between the two models that it would not really matter, especially now that the JS9000 has the HDR firmware? Thanks.
The biggest difference is the peak brightness, so unless you want your TV to be brighter, keep your JS9000
Hi, do you by any chance have the measurement from the top VESA mounting hole to the bottom edge of the TV?
We only have the measurements for our 55" unit. From the screw itself to the bottom of the TV, it's 24.7 inches. From the bottom of the indentation surrounding the screw to the bottom of the TV, it's 24.4 inches.
After reading this review I was going to buy this TV, then I saw that horrible box just for inputs? Why did Samsung do this? I've never seen any TV offer this.
Is there a positive for this to help make me purchase this bad boy? :)
I see that it may future-proof it, but from/for what? I'm just shaking my head right now, for I can't stand the idea of it, adding another cable and the fact that it's just pointless IMO.
Thanks - best site on the internet for reviews. I just can't find anything I like from this year of models, especially since Sony added Android to their TVs (not a fan, especially since the reviews aren't that hot).
The main positive is that new OneConnect Boxes could pack in more/better codec support, and newer smart features. It's useful for people who want the option to upgrade those features, but we agree that it adds clutter.
Android TV has improved a lot since the beginning of the year, and Sony has some really good TVs out right now. You might want to take another look at those if you don't like the look of the current crop of Samsung sets.
Do most, if not all, LCD TVs have dead or stuck pixels? In your reviews, have you encountered a lot of dead/stuck pixels? My JS9000
has a dead pixel, permanently stuck on black, towards the upper right of the screen. It's not noticeable sometimes even if I look for it. Other times I can see it easily if I look at that part of the screen. Does it warrant a panel replacement?
Of all the 2015 TVs we have, there was none that we received with stuck pixels but 2 that came with dead pixels. It's not really common. If that really bothers you, you can always exchange the TV within the exchange time frame of the store you bought it from. If that time frame is over, it will depend of the manufacturer's policy. You can find Samsung's policy on defective pixels here
. It would be surprising if they replace a panel for 1 dead pixel.
I have a 51" Samsung series 5500 plasma TV. Is it worthwhile to purchase any 55" 4k for an upgrade?
Not necessarily. You would need to sit pretty close (about 6-7 feet) to get the full benefit of 4k resolution, and even then, you would need to be watching genuine 4k content. For everything except resolution, your plasma set is probably better, so there's no real need to upgrade just yet.
I'm torn between this Model and the 65" EF9500
OLED 4K by LG. In my situation, price is not an issue at this point, just would like the best picture quality, and gaming experience, JS9000
has great input lag, and the LG is currently unknown. I was reading your OLED review for the 1080p 2014 version and judder seamed to be an issue. Please help.
The judder is only a slight issue, and only when you're watching 24 fps videos that are being sent over a 60 hz signal, so it's not something to worry about too much.
Since we haven't tested the EF9500
, we can't say how it fares for gaming. If it's similar to the EC9300
we tested, then the blur will be very minimal - virtually nonexistent - but the input lag will only be average.
If really low lag is important to you, stick with the JS9000
. If you're more concerned about blur, go with the OLED.
: The review of the EF9500 is up.
Upon reading the manual, I saw that if you leave the TV in 4:3 for too long, the black bars will be burned-in. I have a few concerns/questions:
A) I thought only plasmas got burn-in? LEDs too?
B) If myself or my wife play a game too long, or leave it going (for instance, Lego Jurassic World is being played on our TV currently, and now I have a mini-map icon in the bottom right of my screen semi-burned-in. I knew the JS9000
has an anti-retention feature where it will shift the picture, but what about, let's say, if this game were played for 14 hours straight. Will that mini-map be burned in?
C) If I turn to a low-def channel and it has the side bars, should I be overly concerned as to go find the remote, and change to "zoom" or stretched?
Obviously burn-in scares me, since I've had a plasma for so long.
LED TVs can, but it's quite rare. They're likely only mentioning this in the manual to cover their bases in the event that someone does get a TV that experiences burn-in.
Probably not. You might seem some temporary retention, but most likely that would be corrected after a few minutes of normal viewing.
No, we wouldn't worry about that. You should be fine with the black bars.
Why doesn't the JS9000
support an input of 1080p @ 120fps? Isn't the Samsung motion rate 240 hz? I'm trying to decide for a PC gaming TV between the X850C
and the JS9000.
is a 120 hz TV (the motion rate = double the refresh rate), but with Samsung TVs, this only means they can use motion interpolation to enhance video up to 120 hz. They lack the required hardware to accept a 120 hz signal (likely a cost-saving decision by Samsung).
If 1080p120 is really important to you, you should get the X850C
There is an owner of the UN48JS9000
who tested input lag difference between old 1209 firmware and new 1219 firmware with a Leo Bodnar input lag tester. And measured ZERO input lag in PC/4:4:4 mode. This has been circulating various tech forums. But no one has validated this. This would be HUGE news. Could you please comment/test on this?
Original claim was from here
We've seen similar claims before, and they're unfortunately untrue. We just retested the JS9000
(in PC mode, with UHD color) with two firmware versions. With version 1220, we got input lag of 70 ms. With the latest version, 1422, we got 62 ms.
How come everything I view (PS4, PS3, Blu-ray, cable, etc) is all stating it's only in 59hz (assuming it's actually 60). Is there a setting I need to modify to make it 120 hz?
No. That's just the frequency of the signal being sent by the device, and Samsung TVs can only accept up to 60 hz this year, anyway. If you want smoother video, you can enable 'Auto Motion Plus,' which will introduce the soap opera effect.
Hey guys. I just bought the UN48JS9000
. I am going to calibrate using the settings you recommend under movie mode. However, I will also be using this TV for gaming, and am curious if I should do the same calibration under the game preset, or simply turn on game mode under the movie preset. I am open to whatever you recommend. I just want to make sure I'm set up for perfect calibration for gaming and movies.
Also, would you recommend turning auto motion plus on in the game mode? I am fine with soap opera (I actually like the hyper realistic view lol) but I hear it can bring the input lag up, and I am thrilled by the low input lag on this model.
Enable Game mode and then enter our settings. 'Game' behaves as a separate picture mode, but the settings we listed will still work well.
You won't be able to use interpolation in game mode, and the input lag outside of game mode is really high, so it's best not to use that feature for games.
Hi! I've seen you highly recommend the JS9000
out of all Samsung SUHD models, but then I also see you point people to the 8500 series too.
The curve doesn't matter to me and in fact is a bit of a deterrent. However, you said the 9000 is better for gaming, but, while I game a lot, I'm not playing a lot online where lag can be a factor.
Finally, you said the 9000 has better blacks and greys. Those are really the two reasons you now have me considering the 9000 over the 8500.
So now I'm trying to decide if it's worth the extra $500. Any advice?
They are very similar and it's hard to tell the difference unless they are side by side (aside from the curve of course). So you will probably not notice the difference in your case. Stick to the cheaper JS8500
I recently purchased a 55JS9000 Samsung. I was wondering if there is any benefit to having 100% DCI color, and next year if Samsung makes a 99% DCI-enabled set, will it be worth buying?
There will be a benefit once UHD media mastered in Rec.2020 begins to be released. DCI is much closer to 'filling up' the Rec.2020 color space, so a TV that can do full DCI will have a lot better color for that media than a TV that can only do Rec.709.
Whether such a TV will be worth it will ultimately be down to the price of the model, and also how badly that is a feature that you want.
I've been looking at TV's for a week or so and doing a ton of research. The TV will mainly be used for video games and some streaming. I play a ton of first person shooters on all current gen consoles. I'm mainly looking at the JS9000
as it's on sale for $2999. I've also considered the JS8500
as it is on sale for $1999 on black friday. I can't decide if its worth the extra $1000 for the JS9000 or if the JS8500 will be good enough. Any thoughts on which tv would be better? Are there any other TV's near those price points that would do gaming better with a picture quality that's comparative? Also, fantastic site and thanks for all the help!
The difference between the two is very minimal. Yes, the JS9000
is better, but not $1000 better. Stick to the cheaper JS8500
, it is the best one in this price range.
Looking over your ratings of TVs to be used with PCs, it seems none of them has a VGA input. How then are they supposed to be connected to a PC? I have a 46" Panasonic plasma TV that does have a VGA input in addition to the usual HDMI and video inputs. Is this unique with Panasonic?
You're supposed to connect via HDMI. VGA inputs used to be a bit more common on TVs (not just Panasonic), but we haven't seen any on the models we reviewed this year.
Hello. Just want to ask if it's okay to always leave 'UHD color' on for all 4 HDMI ports? Would it drain more power or have any negative effects if you're not utilizing 4K @ 60 hz @ 4:4:4? Thanks/
It won't have negative effects, so it's fine to do that if you want to.
Does the Samsung UN48JS9000
One connect box have a USB 3.0 port? And what's the length of the stand for the UN48JS9000?
Yes, it has one USB 3.0 port. Unfortunately, because we haven't looked at that size in particular, we don't have measurements for the stand.
I keep hearing I should disable 'Auto Motion Plus,' but where in my menu options for the JS9000
can I find how to disable 'Auto Motion Plus?' I can't find the setting. What's the general walkthrough to get to that setting?
Go to Menu > Picture > Picture Options > Auto Motion Plus.
I bought the 48" model and I am wondering, since you had the 55" model and tested that one model, will the 48" have different performance in terms of input lag?
This tv was purchased for movies & gaming in mind.
All sizes of the JS9000
should have about the same low input lag. It will be great for gaming.
I just picked up the JS9000
based on your reviews and it looks fantastic! Thank you very much for all your work. I am wondering how the UHD Premium certification affects this TV and will it affect it going forward. This is a top tier Samsung TV and highly rated device. Does it meet the certification for Premium and also is that just a marketing gimmick? I didn't know if that spec will present itself with such a better picture or would it be better to return and wait for a 2016 version with this "premium" specs? Are those UHD premium specs so unnoticeable when compared to this TV that it won't matter?
Even if we know the requirements for the new specification, we don't know how manufacturers are going to take their measurements. From our own measurements, the JS9000
wouldn't be granted with the certification but it wouldn't be surprising that it would if it were Samsung taking the measurements. A good example of this is contrast ratios. Manufacturers advertised contrast ratios are always exaggerated compared to our own measurements. So until we test some TVs that meet the new certification, we won't be able to tell how much of a difference it makes compared to the best 2015 TVs. That said, it would be surprising that the new TVs are miles ahead so no need to return your TV.
Hi, I recently purchased a UN78JS9100FXZA from BB and have not been blown away by the "Game Mode" feature when playing PS4. Do you have any recommendations how to improve this? I just bought the TV yesterday for $4k and dont see a drastic improvement to justify the large purchase. Since I have 14 days to return, I was hoping for some tips otherwise I'm returning this thing in a week. Thanks.
We haven't reviewed the JS9100, but expect it to be similar to the JS9000
. Turning on 'Game Mode' reduces the picture processing to provide lower input lag. The main advantage of this TV for gaming is the low input lag and low motion blur, but if it is no improvement over your old TV then you are better off returning it.
We are not taking any more questions for this product because we no longer have it in our lab.