Update: We retested the Vizio P Series (P602ui-b3) under our new test bench for 2015, because this model will only get replaced later in spring 2016. With the new pictures and test results, you will be able to compare it using the same methodology as other 2015 models.
The Vizio P-series is a good, affordable 4k TV. With the exception of its motion blur and viewing angle, its picture quality is great, and it would make a good TV for general use.
- Great black uniformity, even with local dimming turned off.
- Very low input lag.
- Very bright. It currently holds our maximum white luminance record.
- Poor viewing angle (except the 55"). The TV's colors change significantly when you view it from an angle.
- It has a very long motion blur trail on full-color transitions.
- Sub par upscaling. Lower resolution content look soft.
Contrary to the cheaper Vizio TVs, the P Series feels like a higher-end TV. It might not be the thinnest LED TV, but it is still less bulky than some high end Sony TVs.
The stand isn't the most stable, but it has a small footprint.
Dimensions for 60" TV stand: 19.75” x 10.34”
2.48" (6.3 cm)
This TV is very good for movies. The blacks are deep and quite uniform, and 24 fps movies don’t have judder, which is great.
This TV also has decent local dimming. There’s some blooming on brighter objects onscreen, which isn’t ideal, but the feature works better on this model than it does on the otherwise similar Vizio M-series.
With the local dimming feature off, the contrast ratio is good. Surprisingly, the local dimming did change our black level measurement on our checkboard pattern (it didn't on the E or M Series). We measured a black of 0.023 cd/m2 instead of 0.030 cd/m2. Of course, with that feature, the black level is even lower on larger black areas. The 55" has a native contrast ratio a lot lower than the other sizes, around 1,000:1.
The backlight is a bit slow to dim when transitioning from light to dark, so there is a trail of blooming that follows the dot around the screen in our test. This video was filmed under 'Calibrated Dark' preset. Under 'Calibrated', it is not as aggressive, except for the top and bottom letterboxes.
SDR Peak 2% Window
SDR Peak 50% Window
It has less DSE than most of the other TVs we have reviewed, but a considerable amount of deviation in the uniformity.
VA (except 55")
The 60" Vizio P we reviewed lost picture quality pretty quickly when viewed at an angle. It’s not a problem if you sit directly in front of it, but this is not an ideal TV for even relatively minor deviations from a centered position. The 55” version has an IPS panel, and therefore does not have that same problem.
Update 01/06/2017: We have changed the methodology of testing. Since this is an old TV which we don't have anymore, we extrapolated the results from 2016 TVs.
The black uniformity of this TV is good. There is a bit of flashlighting in the top right corner, but it's very minor.
When 'Reduce Block Noise' is set to 'High', the picture becomes too soft. 'Med' is a good compromise.
Upscaled cable content looks soft and not as sharp as other TVs.
Upscaled 1080p looks soft on this 4k TV. The Samsung JU7100 does a better job at keeping the original sharpness of 1080p content.
On HDMI 4, the 4k picture looks great. On HMDI 5 however, it looks a little bit over-processed.
The Vizio P Series reflects slightly more than average. It is not significant, so do not worry about a few overhead lights.
It gets very bright, and can handle itself well in a bright room. It would do fine even if it was surrounded by windows or other sources of bright light.
This TV is okay for sports. There’s not too much blur, so fast-moving objects won’t look bad. There’s also not too much patchiness to playing surfaces, which is a problem many LED TVs have.
This TV has a good deal of overshoot on some transitions, which means there could be a fairly lengthy trail on some movement. This trail will be visible regardless of whether 'Smooth Motion Effect' or 'Clear Action' are enabled.
PWM Dimming Frequency
Judder-free 24p via 60p
Judder-free 24p via 60i
Motion Interpolation (30 fps)
Motion Interpolation (60 fps)
Likewise, this TV is decent for video games. There’s hardly any delay between making an input and seeing the reaction onscreen, which is great.
The main downside for gamers is that there could be a pretty lengthy trail on some movement.
1080p With Interpolation
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 + HDR
Using the ‘Game Low Latency’ feature drops input lag to a very low 18.7 msecs, but only on HDMI 5. On HDMI 1-4, the lowest it gets is 45.5 msecs. Without GLL, HDMI 5 has an input lag of 85.5 msecs (84.3 with interpolation), and HDMI 1-4 has one of 103.9 (102.9 with interpolation).
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4
Digital Optical Audio Out
Analog Audio Out 3.5mm
HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwith
Yes (HDMI 1,2,5)
Variable Analog Audio Out
This TV gets pretty loud, and the sound is decently accurate, but the bass is pretty poor.
There’s not much distortion at quieter volumes, but the more you increase the volume, the more you’ll notice some.
Std. Dev. @ 75
4.63 dB SPL
Std. Dev. @ 85
4.76 dB SPL
Std. Dev. @ Max
5.87 dB SPL
Poor bass extension, but the TV gets relatively loud. The frequency response isn't too bad, and the pumping is minimal under louder volumes.
Total Harmonic Distortion
The distortion level is decent when the TV is very quiet, but there is a noticeable rise as the volume increases.
The app selection is limited, and the full smart menu can take a while to navigate. The dedicated app buttons (Netflix, Amazon Instant, iHeart Radio) make it quick and easy to open those three apps, though.
It comes with a pretty standard remote. It has a QWERTY keyboard on the back, which makes entering text much faster.
Power Consumption (Max)
The Vizio P Series is a great TV. If you want a 4k TV, the Vizio P Series is a great budget option. If you don't care about 4k, the choice isn't as clear. Even though it is better than the E Series and M Series, it costs almost twice as much, so the price to quality ratio isn't as good. But if you don't mind the price difference, go for the Vizio P Series.
Questions & Answers
74 ANSWERED QUESTIONS
Just purchased my Vizio P60 from Costco last night. I'm not a techie, can you recommend settings to get me started for general TV watching, sports, and movies to get me the optimal performance. It's been 10 years since my last TV. I,also bought Vizio sounbar, with sub. What audio settings would you recommend?
The settings that we posted should be a good start for the picture. For the audio, we don't unfortunately test it or calibrate the audio, so we can't recommend settings for that.
Thanks for the review! I got a 50 inch P-series
Vizio TV recently. I have a question/problem - when I stream Netflix at 4K there is a lot of blur (like pixels and distorted image) in fast moving scenes. I tried with Smooth Motion off and on but no effect. Please help me! I am frustrated by the ugly image blur constantly.
Is it only when using Netflix? If so, what is your internet bandwidth / Netflix bit rate?
I just purchased the P602ui-b3
and I am having trouble finding the right picture setting for everyday use. Can you please give me some settings I can set the TV to get the best picture? I have no problem going into the advanced settings if you have a recommendation.
Thank you very much.
Have you tried the ones that we posted? It should be a good start.
I am debating between the 60 inch P series
and 60 inch E series
. Is there enough of a difference in the P series to justify and extra $900? I have heard the P series can look fake. Is it important to be "future proof?" I am looking for a TV to last me 10+ years. Awesome review site, BTW.
If you are asking the question, stick to the 60" E. The P is not 2 times better. The E has a far better price to quality ratio. The P is not 100% future proof anyway. For example, it doesn't support 4k @ 60fps 4:4:4.
Differences between sizes
We reviewed the 60". It should also be similar to the 50", 65" and 70". Keep in mind that bigger sizes are more prone to uniformity issues.
Contrary to the other sizes, the 55" has an IPS panel. The contrast ratio is significantly lower (around 1,000:1), but it has a better viewing angle (the screen darkens instead of shifting colors at an angle). The lower contrast ratio cannot be seen in a bright room. Check out our review of the M552i-B2 to see what a similar IPS panel looks like.
If someone is aware of other notable differences between sizes, let us know and we will update our review.
Help! I just purchased the P55ui-B2 model. I am having a hard time removing the "soap opera" effect. What would be your recommended settings (if there are any) to eliminate? When I turn off the motion controls, the picture begins to jiggle. So I am into a catch 22 situation. I am a movie buff and just wish to get the picture back to its intended view.
Turn off 'Smooth Motion Effect'. If you experience some judders, it could be due to a couple of factors. For 24fps content, turn on 'Film Mode'. Also, make sure the judder isn't coming from your source (for example, watching a 24p movie on a PC that outputs at 60 fps). For 30/60fps, try reducing the amount of input lag. The lower the input lag, the less variation there is between frames. Try HDMI 5 with 'Game Low Latency' turned on.
I recently bought a P502ui-B1E, I was reading some forums, and they claim it's actually a 60hz monitor.
I also been using the hdmi 5 port for PC gaming. I noticed at 120hz 1080p mode, the screen goes black randomly like I lost signal but comes back quickly. It's random but annoying.
However this does not happen when I use hdmi 5 port for 4k 60hz gaming...or when I used my Xbox One/PS4 for gaming(Im guessing it's the 60fps cap on them).
Any idea on what it could be and whether it's really a 60hz?
It is probably 60Hz. Try this test
to see if there is any frame skipping when you are running at 120Hz.
Thanks for the review Cedric! How does 480p, 720p and 1080p upconvert on this panel? For example how does DVD PQ compare to a 1080p television? Thanks!
We are adding upscaling tests in our 2015 reviews, but we haven't figured out all the camera settings/footage/configuration yet. The goal (as with all our test results) is to visually show the difference between TVs. It is a bit harder for upscaling because it depends on a tons of factor, especially the bit rate. We are keeping our Vizio P602ui-B3
for a few weeks/months so once we have figured our upscaling test configuration, we will post pictures of the results.
But to answer subjectively for now, everything looks slightly blurrier than on a 1080p TV (especially 1080p high quality media). This is expected though, upscaling always soften a picture. This may sounds bad, but the upside is less jagged lines.
I am looking at buying a 4K TV soon, would the Samsung UN40HU6950FXZA 40" or 50" be better for about 10 feet away or the Vizio P series
50" or LG49UB8500 49"? I don't want to go over $1500 since I don't watch TV that much, just signed up for Netflix $11.99/mo and I will mostly stream to the TV. The Direct TV we have is just an SD box in this room.
At 10 feet away, get the biggest one you can afford. Go for the Vizio P502ui-B1
, it is a better value for the price.
Update: Instead of the previous cursor test for the local dimming feature, we created this test pattern. We updated the videos.
As you can see in the videos comparing the M552i-B2 (left) to the P602ui-B3 (right), the full array local dimming of the P Series is a lot better than the M Series. Not only do the added zones make a difference, but the Vizio P is also faster to match the picture.
The backlight cannot catch up on the Vizio M552i-B2. At first, it fully illuminates the dot. Once it starts moving too fast though, the backlight doesn't have time to turn on completely, reducing the luminosity of the dot. This is not an issue on the P Series. The backlight is more responsive. However, the backlight takes some time to dim down, leaving a trail of blooming.
Here are the pictures of our uniformity pattern:
Active LED Zones Off
Active LED Zones On
Overall, the local dimming implementation of the Vizio P Series is good and you should turn on that feature, as long as you don't mind a little bit of blooming.
So I just bought the vizio 50" p series
and the picture from the ps4 is great but the cable box looks horrible. Why are 1-4 Hdmi ports 4k at 30hz and the 5th 60hz?
Are you watching HD channels? If not, the blurriness is normal. As for the difference between the HDMI inputs, it is because currently there are no chip that supports both HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2 on the same port, so Vizio decided to provide both options separately.
Does the 50" Vizio P-series
B1 have an app like Plex or it's own where I can directly access my PC for DLNA?
Yes, it has the Plex app. It also has its own DLNA client, although it doesn't support all formats.
Which model did you review? Obviously not the 55", since it's an IPS panel and your picture of the pixels indicates one of the VA ones, but which?
I have the P70 and pretty happy with it. The off angle viewing is pretty bad though at 40 degrees or more (washed out). Main viewing area is 10 feet away with secondary viewing 15 feet. I think it might be a little to big and might replace with 65". Main viewing is sports and movies. Of these three or keeping the 70 which is my best choice to eliminate motion blur and best colors/picture? Vizio P 70 or 65, Sony XBR-65X850B, or Samsung un65h7150
If you are happy with it, you should keep it instead of risking going with another model. You will probably get used to the bigger size, and 5" isn't a really big difference. That said, the Samsung UN65H7150
is cheaper and a similar picture quality (better screen finish and smart features, but no 4k). Or you could also go for the 65" P, the picture quality should be similar to your 70".
Great Review! I'm deciding between this TV and a Sony W800B
. I game around 50% of the time and both input lags on these TVs should be more than fine, but I'd like to hear which one you think has overall better picture quality. Taking into account contrast, color accuracy, motion, and - in the case of the P Series
- upscaling, which TV do you find produces a better picture?
Both are great so don't over think this. You will be happy with either of them. But the Sony W800B
is slightly better for gaming because it has less motion blur and a better backlight strobbing mode.
Will this output 5.1 from the optical output when using Netflix?
Unfortunately, we didn't test that. Very few TVs do though, so it is unlikely.
I just wanted to know if the P-series
is better than the JU6500
. I was looking at a 55 inch 6500 and a 60 inch P-series. I love to play console games and I watch a lot of Blu-rays.
is a better TV for your gaming needs. It is better at upscaling 1080p (and lower) to 4k, and it has less motion blur. Apart from that, the two TVs are very similar in terms of overall picture quality.
Your reviews are outstanding - thanks for the great work! I'm torn between the 70" Vizio P and the Samsung 75" H6350
. Their price is similar so I'm wondering if picture quality, resolution, and the ability to enjoy 4K content (once it is more widely adopted) from Vizio outweighs the extra 5" of screen size from the Samsung? We mostly watch movies and sports in the house (gaming isn't a consideration) and our sofa is about 13 feet from the screen. What would you buy? Thanks!
This is a close one. Both are great. For 1080p content, the Samsung H6350
is slightly better, but not by much. Personally, I would get the 75" H6350 for the added 5", but the 4k on the Vizio is really tempting.
Smooth Motion Effect and Clear Action
The Smooth Motion Effect creates the soap opera effect / motion interpolation feature. Clear Action makes the backlight more aggressive, but as you can see in the pictures below, because we already had a relatively low backlight setting, it didn't further reduce the blur.
Unfortunately, the long trail is present on all settings combination.
Clear Action Off, Smooth Motion Effect Off
Clear Action On, Smooth Motion Effect Off
Clear Action Off, Smooth Motion Effect Low
Clear Action On, Smooth Motion Effect Low
Clear Action Off, Smooth Motion Effect Med
Clear Action On, Smooth Motion Effect Med
Clear Action Off, Smooth Motion Effect High
Clear Action On, Smooth Motion Effect High
The 50" P series
is $699 at Walmart in the US on Black Friday. Is that a good deal or would it be better to get a much larger E or M series
If you sit at a normal distance (like 10 feet), you will prefer a bigger TV instead of a smaller 4k one. You will be happier with a bigger Vizio E.
I will using this for gaming and movies. I know the w850b
is the best for gaming but will not be as good for streaming netflix shows such as house of cards. When taking in to account that which tv will have a better picture on standard HD? I am also looking at Samsung's h7150
. Of the three which will have a better overall picture quality? I don't care too much about smart features or 3d. Price of the Vizio and Samsung are the same where I am at but the w850b is about 500 cheaper.
Which sizes are you looking at? The 70" W850B
is a lot more prone to banding problems than the 60", so it isn't a good choice. For 1080p content, the difference is very minimal between all of those sets. Just choose depending on what you prefer: the W850B wins for motion blur, the H7150
for screen finish/extras and the Vizio P Series
for 4k. Keep in mind that they are all great, you can't go wrong with any of them. We are talking about minor differences here.
I am replacing my 10 years old 57 inch Hitachi projection tv. I am looking at Vizio based on price and trying to decide on E, M, or P series
(60 inch). My concern with the E series
is it is 120Hz vs 240Hz on M and P series. Will I notice that big of a difference? I can get an M series
for $850 and P series for just under $1,000.
The E Series
is 60Hz, and the M and P are 120Hz. The refresh rate that Vizio lists is not the real one (it is inflated with the backlight flickering). This means the Vizio E doesn't have the motion interpolation feature (very few people use it anyway). Each jump (E to M, and M to P) is arguably about a 10% picture quality increase, mostly in term of uniformity. Whether it is worth it depends on how you value that 10% with the price difference. Most people will be happy with just the E.
Is there a warm up time when starting my Vizio P series
65" TV? When I turn on the sound is there and the screen stays black for five minutes or so?
5 minutes? That is definitely a defect. Return it.
Thanks so much for the in-depth review. You guys appear to be one of the first to do so. I recently purchased the Samsung HU8550
. I think I am happy with it, not 100 percent sure yet. However, I was really on the fence about whether or not I should get that one or the Vizio P series
. Of course the P series has a much better price tag. I think I ultimately went with Samsung due to a better reputation and the fact that they have what they call "future-proofing". I mainly watch my set for television viewing and movies, and from time to time, gaming. I also love the Smart TV features of the Samsung (don't know how they will compare to Vizio). But I don't care anything about 3D. I have about 20 days left to return the Samsung. Would you guys go with the Vizio instead?
The smart features on the Samsung are definitely way better, as well as the screen finish. The picture quality of both TVs are very similar. If you are happy with your current HU8550
, stick with it. The price and lower input lag are the only main advantages of the Vizio P Series
over the Samsung HU8550.
I'm about to purchase a new TV and I think I've narrowed it down to two models, the Vizio P702ui-b3
or the Samsung UN75H7150
. I'm coming from a samsung pn63c7000. Let me say I really do not care about the 4K option at this point. I will primarily use this for Blu-ray Movies and sports. Big screen 1080P picture quality is all I care about. I also have DirectTV as my satellite provider. Which one of these options has the best 1080p picture?
Both are great. But 4k aside, the UN75H7150
is a better value. 5 extra inches, better screen finish, 1:1 pixel mapping for 1080p (no fuzziness introduced by the upscaling to 4k) and better extras (remote, 3D and software).
I watch a lot of hockey and football. People have reported bad motion blur with the Vizio 70" P series
. Motion blur is my main concern preventing me from purchasing this tv because I'm afraid it will ruin sports. Also considering the 70" M series
. Any guidance? Due to sales the price isn't that far apart right now.
The 60" P that we tested did have a long blur trail. Just get the cheaper M, especially that most sports won't be available in 4k anytime soon.
I am looking at this TV more as a computer monitor. I'd love to have 4k for web browsing, development, and just general work. Having that much clarity and screen real estate would be fantastic.
That said, I also game quite a bit on my PC and I don't have the horsepower to game at 4k. (nor am I willing to overpay to invest in it right now). So how well does it handle PC games running at 1080? Does it get all blurry like normal monitors when not running at native resolution or does it handle the up conversion well?
1080p content is indeed slightly blurrier than on a native 1080p. Not much though, and it depends on your distance from the TV. Unfortunately, there is no option to do a 1->2 direct pixel mapping.
I recently bought the 70" P Series
and have been quite happy with the picture except for some very noticeable clouding on an all-black screen (www.imgur.com/Dt0Lv9s). Is there a difference in panel for the 70" or did I just get a bad sample?
Assuming you can see it under normal content, that does look bad. Slight clouding is normal but this is more than what can be considered average. You should exchange it for another one.
With the settings that we posted:
At 100 cd/m2
At max: 252W
Thanks for the great reviews! How would you compare the picture quality of this TV to the Sony W800B
? I understand the Vizio had a lower native contrast and I'm wondering if you can comment on how well the local dimming on the P series
enhances the picture? I'm thinking that with upscaling and color taken into account the Sony is probably the better TV. Would you say this is the case?
We added videos of the local dimming of the P on a separate answer. In short, it works well, but there is of course some blooming. Assuming you don't care about 4k or the local dimming, the Sony W800B
is better (native contrast, motion blur and processing), but not by much. Both are great TVs.
Considering a Samsung PNF8500 over the Vizio P series
. Given the the same TV size 64" vs. 65" which would you choose? Prices are currently $2399 for PN64F8500
(Samsung panel, US02 version) vs. $2199 for Vizio P series 65". Picture quality is my primary concern.
This is a tough one. Both are great in their respective category. The Samsung F8500
has a better overall picture quality (mostly in term of uniformity and viewing angle), but it is a plasma, so it is not for everyone (buzzing, flickering, ABL, dithering, temporary image retention, etc.). The Vizio P is more practical. If you don't mind plasma's downsides, get the F8500. Otherwise, get the Vizio P; it is still a great TV.
Thanks for such a great review site! I am really torn between purchasing the Samsung UN75H6350
or the Vizio P702ui-B3
. They are about the same price range and I really need a large TV with the best picture quality. If you were to choose between the two TVs solely based on Picture quality (in a dark room) which one would you choose? Thanks and I hope you guys start reviewing 4K media players!
Both are good, so the answer is not cut dry. The picture quality is relatively in the same ballpark, but the Samsung has 5 extra inches and the Vizio 4k. If you were to sit relatively close, like less than 10-12 feet, get the Vizio. Farther than that and the extra 5" wins over the higher resolution.
If I just plug the cable box into the 50" P-series
will I have a choice to just watch it at the feed resolution (1080i I think)? Will it be dramatically different from the upscaled version? And can you watch it either way?
The TV always upscales the signal to 4k, because this is the panel native resolution. Even if you feed it 1080i, it will show 4k.
Currently I can get the Vizio P series
65 inch for $1499 or I can get the Vizio M series
65 inch for $1299. I mostly watch sports. Just curious what you would recommend? In the stores the Samsung TVs are definitely clearer... but a bigger price tag. Thoughts? Great Reviews!!
Get the M 65", unless you really plan on watching 4k native content.
You should retest the 2014 Vizio P-series
. The latest firmware update has completely transformed that TV. The motion interpolation is now outstanding, the local dimming is vastly improved, and 1080p @ 120 FPS works perfectly now as well. This TV really does deserve a complete retest. It is like a new TV.
We don't really have time to do a complete retest of it. We currently have a backlog of new TVs to test, and considering that none of what you mentioned affects our scoring or recommendations, it is lower on our list.
I have the 70" and I have followed a couple of posted calibration settings. I love the way the picture looks but, my whites have a blue-ish tint. How can I fix that?
Change the 'Color Temperature'. If that doesn't work, you will have to do it manually in the color tuner by giving the blue color a negative gain.
I'm between this Vizio P and the W850B
, both 60". I only stream and play video games. If picture quality and input lag are my primary concerns, which would you recommend? In your 4K article you mention that the picture quality on the 4k displays when fed 1080P content can be slightly blurry. For this reason I'm leaning towards the W850B. Thoughts?
The blurriness of upscaled 1080p content is not really an issue. Not only it is subtle, but some people actually like it (it looks more smooth). That said, if you just plan on watching 1080p, just get the cheaper Sony W850B
Thanks for the review. I really appreciate this. I have been debating between this TV and the samsung UN60H7150AFXZA
which is a 150 dollars cheaper and not 4K. The Samsung has better reviews but for the price I'm leading towards the Vizio because of the 4k. I guess I want a TV that I will be happy with in two years.
Even in two years, 4k content will not be widespread. A lot of TV channels are still in 720p today. Therefore, you will be happier with the cheaper and better H7150
Just bought the 50" version. Since it has the same type of panel as the one you tested, will your Color Tuner settings apply to mine equally?
Also, when I first set mine up, I had the picture in Calibrated mode, but felt like everything was a bit washed out. I popped my fancy calibration DVD into my PS3 (using HDMI 5) and got these settings out of it. Feel free to critique and share if you think it's useful.
Auto Brightness Control: High
This is assuming the following settings under Advanced:
Color Temperature: Normal
Black Detail: Off
Active LED Zones: On
Smooth Motion Effect: Off
Clear Action: Off
Reduce Signal Noise: Medium
Reduce Block Noise: Medium
Game Low Latency: On
When it comes to color tuner values, each individual unit will be different - even within the same model and size.
Your Brightness setting looks a little low. That could lead to loss of detail in dark images, but keep things how they are if you're happy with your settings.
I have just purchased the P series
Vizio 65". Some of the scenes are so crisp and amazing, but then others look very fake. I was watching a Blu-ray. Can you suggest settings? Thanks.
Try using the same settings that we used in our review. That might help you get a more desirable image. You can find them on the third page of our review
I'm looking for a new tv to game on. Seeing as how the P602ui-B3
has great marks in input lag, better then Sony W850B
, I am now torn between the two. Which would you recommend?
If it weren't for the subtle long motion blur trail, it would have been a different answer. It shouldn't be noticeable in most games, but that issue is not present on the W850B
. The W850B also has a better backlight strobing feature (which reduces even more the blur), so get the Sony W850B for gaming.
Does this tv upscale video games to 4k? Also did you test the latency at 1080p or 4k? Thanks for the review.
Everything that you display is upscaled to 4k. The latency was measured at 1080p, not 4k.
Thank you for reviewing the new Vizio P-Series
. Do you think the P65 will have more favorable outcomes since it has a VA type panel, and appears to be their flagship size?
It should be very similar to the 60" that we reviewed, which is great.
What resolution was the source while testing input lag? Will up-scaling 1080 increase lag? Can the P series
display 1080 content at 1080? (no up-conversion) I found a good deal on a P series panel, but I'm not sure I will be watching a lot of 4K content. I was thinking since the review of the overall picture was so good, I would get this TV.
P.S. Thanks for providing such a great TV shopping tool!
1080p, so even with the upscaling the input lag was great. It can't do a 1 to 2 direct pixel mapping unfortunately.
Do you all test reliability at all? Best buy dudes say they have E series
returned all the time but rarely M series
. He argued it was because they were cheaper made I stated it was because they sold more of them.
No, we don't test reliability. We are open to suggestion on how we can test/rate this, if you have any. The E series
build is definitely cheaper, but it is hard to tell if this correlates to the electronics components.
You guys are great. I wish I visited this site year ago. We are considering a P Series
70inch for 14x24 MediaRoom. Seating are going to be at 12 and 15 feet from the tv wall and the first row will have 3 seats and 4 in the second row. Would the 19 Viewing Angle be any concern for our setup?
It is borderline. The opposite edge of the screen will probably have desaturated colors a little bit. Whether this is an issue depends on how picky you are. The problem though is that all LED TVs with a good contrast ratio (deep blacks) will exhibit this issue.
I did a lot of research and a lot of comparing TV's and finally picked the Vizio P702ui-B3
. I really liked the picture overall and the features that it came with. I read around and the input lag for gaming is great. Something that worried me was the motion blurred for sports and video games. I've been playing games with it first person shooters and I am not able to find the motion blur that I see a lot of people talk about and I also see that here. Can you elaborate a little more on that, for example where would I see it or how can I look for it. A little more on this would help.
Also I see that there are calibration settings on this site page three, are the calibration settings for the Vizio 70 4k tv or for all Vizio's tv sizes?
This is great site for reviews thank you for all that research I definitely find it very useful.
If you don't see a problem, don't worry and just enjoy your new TV! If you really want though, you can try it with our own test pattern
. As for the settings, they are for the 60" but the 70" should be the same (just don't copy the white balance).
Love this site, I will now be using it for all my tech purchases. I have a question. I'm conflicted with choosing between Vizio's E, M, and P. There is a E600i-B3 for $800, M552i-B2 for $800, and the P502ui-B1E for $900. The tv will be around 10 feet away, and I use it for Netflix, Sports, and games. Which tv would be the best buy? I have read all your reviews, tech information, etc and still can't decide. Thank you for your time.
Get the bigger E. You will appreciate the size difference more than the picture quality difference (which is minimal).
Thanks for the analysis, very helpful stuff.
Would this p-series
be ok as a PC monitor replacement? My concern is if the text is clear or not. I would like to have a home theater PC setup but someone told me it's a good idea to check if the HDTV set supported/displayed the full RGB range - 4:4:4 and 0-255 RGB / chroma/luma - but maybe that's a bit overkill? I don't know yet so thought I'd ask someone with access to these TVs.
My other option is the Sony 850 line, I was told that series does have the support, what do you think?
It depends on the frame rate that you want. It doesn't support 4:4:4 @ 60 fps and 4k, but 30 fps should work.
I am torn between four TVs. I game on PlayStation 4 about half of the time and watch sports and movies the other half of the time. Picture quality is very important to me, and motion blur and input lag are slightly secondary. Which TV would you recommend: Samsung H7150
65", Samsung HU8550
55", Sony X850B 55", or Vizio P Series
The Samsung H7150
has the best overall picture quality (good contrast and uniformity), and also has good motion blur and average input lag. Of the TVs you mentioned, this would likely be the best for you. The HU8550
is nearly the same TV, but with 4k resolution. It's not worth losing the 10" extra you'd have with the H7150. The Sony X850B has low input lag, but also has low contrast, so its picture isn't as good as the H7150's. It is, however, better at retaining its picture quality at wider angles, so it is a good choice if you need to be able to watch your TV from wide angles. The Vizio P series
is a very good TV as well, but fast-moving objects have a trail to them, which is unsightly.
Overall, the Samsung H7150 is the best option of the four you suggested, so go for that one.
I am a PC gamer. I do watch a lot of shows as well, but my main focus is on gaming. I'm between the Sony 60w850b with 1080p or the VIZIO P552ui-B2
/ VIZIO P602ui-B3
with 4k. I have two GTX 980 SLIs, so i should be able to run some games in 4k, and that's making me consider making the jump to 4k. I have also heard that the Vizio P series
has native 120hz at 1080p. If the Vizio is capable of displaying games at higher frame rates, similar to that of a 120hz gaming monitor, would it be superior for PC gaming?
Or would the reduced motion blur of the Sony 60w850b still be best for gaming over having the options of the 60hz at 4k and 120hz at 1080p gaming on the vizio.
Also, if true 1080p 120hz works on this TV with PC gaming, is 120hz at 1440p possible?
Less motion blur is very important for gaming. There's not much point in having high frame rates or 4k if the enhanced picture is too blurry. You should definitely pick the W850B
over the Vizio P.
1440p at 120 hz does work on the Vizio P.
Hi! Apparently Costco is going to have the P502ui-B1
on sale for $700 in a few days, and they'll probably go fast - so I need to determine which 50" TV is best for me, the P502ui-B1 or the Samsung UN50H6350
. I don't game, so my only concern is picture quality - including contrast, uniformity, smooth motion (without the "smooth motion" effect, which I hate), accuracy, etc. Amazon has the UN50H6350 for $748, so essentially the same price. I would buy that from your link, of course, but I trust you'll give an honest opinion! I know that at my viewing distance of 7'. the 4k doesn't matter - so that isn't really a factor either way for me. Viewing angle doesn't matter either - I sit directly in front of the TV. Both sets even have the same exact rating of 8.2! Any thoughts?
Some people actually do notice the difference with 4k at that distance, though the difference won't be very big. The two have quite similar picture quality, though the Vizio P does have better uniformity. It also has quite a long trail on fast-moving objects, which means it's not ideal for fast-moving images like you'd see while watching sports. Given that you want smooth motion, you're probably better off with the H6350
I am going to buy a Vizio 70" 4K TV. The 2014 P Series
is available for about $150 less than the 2015 M series
. Which do you recommend?
The M is a bit better at upscaling 1080p, but that's a good deal, so go for the Vizio P.
Hi, can you please tell me which one should I get between the 55" P-series
and the 55" Sony W950b
? They are both IPS TVs and have the same input lag. I'm a hardcore gamer, so which one would you recommend? Price is the same. Would the upscaling of the P make my games look better than on the Sony W950B?
The Vizio P's upscaling is fairly poor, so 1080p content won't look quite as good on it. The W950B
is better for gaming because it has less motion blur.
You said “The motion interpolation on this TV is very effective.” And then turned around and said “The trail is visible regardless of whether 'Smooth Motion Effect' or 'Clear Action' are enabled.” So which is it. Does smooth motion work or not?
Judging by your sample pictures I would say that smooth motion works very well. So why does it receive such a low score for motion and gaming? You could turn smooth motion on for the gaming HDMI 5 and it would still have very good latency with excellent motion blur.
I think you need to revisit your motion blur ratings for the Vizio sets.
What is the latency of this set on HDMI5 with GLL and Smooth Motion turned on?
Our motion blur score is only based on the length of the trail following the logo. We don't factor in any backlight strobing or motion interpolation, because these don't change the trail's length. Those settings are also a personal preference, and are largely determined by the content's framerate.
But, if you compare the blur of the text in the normal and the interpolated images, you'll see that there is much less blurring between the logo's white lettering and the red background, which is why we say interpolation works well.
It isn't possible to use both GLL and Smooth Motion with this TV. Enabling GLL overrides the interpolation and shuts it off. With GLL the lag is 18.7 ms, and with interpolation it is 84.3 ms.
I have seen all the posts but has anyone had to have their TV returned because of bad picture? We had three of the same series replaced, all of which had the same problem. The fourth TV replacement was a step up from the one we had, and guess what: the same problem. We just kept getting the same thing; 'Oh well send us pictures of the problem and we can help you' and now that we just want a refund because we have had the same problem (four) times all we want is to get our money back, well believe it or not, they will NOT refund their product. Basically we were told 'Too bad, your problem is not ours!!!! REALLY. WOW. So now we are stuck with a TV that you can't watch. Whatever happened to customer comes first? We know now with them that is not the case. Gee, thanks, Vizio. We will never recommend you to anyone.
We're sorry that you had a poor experience with your TV. Feel free to send us an email explaining your specific issues. We may be able to help you find settings that get you better picture.
I owned a Vizio P for a week. This was after I took back my Samsung LED 60".
The Vizio suffered from bad image blur on anything semi-fast, and up-converted images were HORRID. My kids didn't even watch it, lol. Watched my old Samsung plasma - that's a tough one to beat, pq-wise.
Went for an LG plasma instead, and well, once you get your LG plasma setup and it has all the updates, break it in and once broken in, adjust to your liking. Don't max anything. I had bad results with anything being cranked to high. Mine are on the safe side except for one, and that's the VGS? It corrected the cloudy image and made it way sharper and crisper.
After all is done and said, watch a nice Blu-ray and you'll be wowed.
A+ picture for me now. It finally rivals my Samsung plasma.
Google the LG's part number and adjustments. All the info you need is there. The pods stuff applies to a few different models.
HOPE THIS HELPED. BTW, image retention and pixel burn is likely for first 1-200 hours of use, so watch TV carefully on the settings I listed and just deal with it for the day, go to bed and night and run the 11hour pixel fix - great for break in.
Buy! Notice plasma prices went up over the years, now through the roof now that they are discontinued. Don't believe the LED hype. Like I said, I just had a high-end Samsung LED TV, 60", and then that 55" Vizio 4k TV 240hz, and then finally I get my beautiful LG plasma. I never expected it to beat out my always solid Sammy. Buy it up, guys and girls, while it's still here.
Plasma TVs are definitely great, and a big step up over most LED TVs. Thanks for sharing your experience with your new TV.
I'm looking at the P60 and M60. Walmart has the P60 for $50.00 less. Based on your review it seems like you like the M60. Which would you go with for the price difference? Great reviews, by the way.
They're more similar than they are different, so save a bit of money and get the P.
More of a helpful hint than a question. There are two models of the 50" version: P502ui-B1
and the P502ui-B1e. Notice the "e" at the end. The "E" model does NOT have a true 120hz panel. It is 60hz. Beware.
Indeed, thanks for sharing.
I enjoyed reading your review. I’m interested in the 70" model. Can I assume that the findings for the 60" would apply to the 70" or will the issues you found with the 60" be magnified with the 70". With regards to motion blur, does your findings with motion blur apply to sporting events as well, football games etc?
Yes, the 70" should be very similar to the 60" we tested (except that bigger sizes are always more prone to uniformity issues). The motion blur shouldn't be a problem for sports.
I don't understand the way you are measuring viewing angles - on a relative basis the results will be the same (as long as the camera is set up the same number of screen-widths back for different TVs), but in terms of the number of degrees, you seem to be measuring the angle at which the far side of the screen fades and this is irrelevant (and depends on viewing distance). The angle at which the center of the screen fades is independent of viewing distance and is the more appropriate measure to compare differing TVs.
For the P60, it appears that the central portion of the image begins to fade at about 30 degrees, not 19 degrees.
Thanks to specify the distance in screen widths at which you are capturing these screen angle videos.
The number is where the contrast is 50% of the maximum contrast (directly in front of the television, at the center), measured with our luminance meter on a checkboard pattern. So the size / distance is irrelevant in our viewing angle measurement. The camera is positioned at 10 feet for all of our tests, no matter the size of the TV. So yes, on bigger TVs, the discoloration on the far side will appear faster in our videos, but our number is not affected by this. Next year we will fix the video issue by maintaining the same size/distance ratio.
If I'm playing a video game and I want it to run at 1080p only so I get the low latency, will I be able to have that option?
Another question is if my video games are upscaled to 4k, will my latency be worse, considering that it's being upscaled?
Thanks for this awesome review and site!
The low input lag that we measured is at 1080p (which is then upscaled to 4k by the TV). So don't worry about this, the upscaling doesn't add significant lag.
Both are great. But for gaming, the Sony KDL60W850B
handles motion better.
How is the viewing angle affected from top to bottom? I am wondering how off the contrast will get if this is mounted higher like above a fireplace.
We don't measure the vertical viewing angle, but subjectively, it looks about the same as the horizontal one. If possible, you should use a TV mount that can be tilt downward.
I bought the Vizio 60" P602ui-B3
at Sam's Club when they had their sale and I for the most part really love the tv. I have noticed though that when there is a lot of red in the screen that I see some slight discoloration where it makes the red look a little pink in one section of the tv. What is causing this?
This is somewhat normal and common to many LED TVs. It is the uniformity that isn't perfect. Look at our gray uniformity picture for example. You can notice a big red circle at the center, slightly offset to the left. If you look at all our reviews, this type of problem is really common, in one way or another unfortunately.
I am torn between the smaller Vizio P702ui-B3
4k and the upcoming larger Vizio M80-C3
4k. Viewing distance between 9-13 feet.
They're mostly identical. The P has better local dimming, but it still isn't accurate enough for us to recommend it. Thanks to the larger screen size and the better upscaling, the M80-C3
is a better choice, so go with that.
Could you please update the dead links showing the sample pix for the "Smooth Motion Effect and Clear Action" posting on Oct 4, 2014? Only two out of the eight samples are showing up in browsers. Links are 404s.
There was a server issue that wiped them out, so we've posted some updated photos. Thanks for letting us know.
I just purchased the P602ui-B3
open box (hadn't even been set up yet) at Sam's Club for $908. I originally intended to purchase a Vizio E-series
, but this deal seemed too good to pass up. When viewing 720p/1080p content, am I missing out on a significant level when compared to the native Vizio E-series, or is the difference fairly minimal? I guess what I'm asking is, if the majority of my viewing is sub-4k until 4k is more widely available, am I that much better off by exchanging it for the E? Thank you.
1080p will look a little better on the E-series
, but 720p and 480p will look about the same as it does on the P-series
. It's not a big enough deal to make an exchange, so just stick with your P-series.
I love your reviews. I'm currently looking at 50" TVs and I'm debating between the M-series
. I will be watching TV (a lot of sports and movie channels), and streaming Netflix. From what I have read, it sounds like the M-series is better for what I will be watching. Is that correct? Thanks in advance.
Yes, get the M series
. Because the M is better at upscaling 1080p, Netflix streaming should look better than it would on the P-series
. Apart from that, the two TVs are about equally good.
I see that this TV can display 1080p @ 120hz. My question is, if content is being upscaled to 4k, can it still be displayed @ 120hz, or will it be 60hz? I was under the impression that on a 4k TV, all content is upscaled to 4k.
Yes, all content is upscaled to 4k on a 4k TV, and the 1080p@120hz signal will still be displayed at 120 fps. Only a real 4k signal maxes out at 60 hz (on HDMI 5) or 30 hz (on HDMI 1-4).
I have a vizio 50 inch UHD hooked up to comcast box with a cinnamon hdmi cable. The motion blur is very bad especially when watching sports. Is it the tv or box?
It depends. Vizio 4k TVs aren't the best for motion blur, but it shouldn't be very bad.
Try to enable 'Clear Action', as it reduces visible motion blur but adds flickering.
Make sure you connect the cable box to HDMI 1-4, not 5. Then, copy our posted settings and see if it helps.
Hi, I recently bought a Vizio P-series
50" thanks to your review. I use it as my main monitor for my PC. I'm a 3D designer/engineer so I needed the extra space ha! Yet I noticed that pure red objects and text look jagged no matter which resolution/frame rate/ or settings I choose. I tried all the combinations in the TV as well. Is there a way to fix this? Look at this image
with your own text, specifically at how the "F" and "V" look pixelated.
The Vizio P can't do chroma 4:4:4, which would explain why colored text/objects look like that. Chroma 4:4:4 capability is what lets text look crisp on a TV. Without it, you get a look like the one you're experiencing.
Excellent reviews. I have a 60in P series
that I absolutely love, but it started having an issue where the screen would flicker off for ~10sec. This only happens once every couple of hours (sometimes even more rarely), so it really isn't too bothersome. I called Vizio and they offered to replace it with a "re-certified" 60in M60-C3
. I cannot decide what to do. On one hand I don't want to trade an otherwise flawless P series for a lesser line with fewer dimming zones. Right now the problem is not very bothersome. On the other, the warranty ends in one month and it could be a harbinger a much bigger problem. I am also concerned about a "re-certified" product. Any advice?
The two are nearly identical. The main differences are that the Vizio P is better with local dimming and the Vizio M at upscaling 1080p sources. Since problems often get worse over time we suggest you pick the Vizio M. Re-certified TVs from Vizio should be in a like new state. The other option would be to see how much it could be for repair.
Just got a vizio p65 and blacks look cloudy. How do I adjust this?
Black uniformity issues like cloudy blacks or 'flashlighting' cannot be fixed by settings. If it is too distracting, we suggest you exchange the TV for another one. Unfortunately, most TVs have some kind of uniformity issue so depending on how bad it is, you might not get better.