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64 ANSWERED QUESTIONS
Would you recommend these settings for the 65" size?
Yes, except for the white balance.
I found these picture settings on an Amazon review and have been using them, pretty happy with the picture.
PIC mode: VIVID
light Sensor OFF
Black level 47
Black adjust High
adv Contrast Enhancer High
Color Temp Neutral
Color space Auto
Live Color High
Sharpness 45 to 50
Noise reductions LOW (Blu-Ray OFF)
MOTIONFLOW CUSTOM - SMOOTHNESS 1 and CLEARNESS Min
How would yours compare? I started inputing them but was lost on all the gray settings.
Ours have a completely different look that yours. Ours should be a lot closer to an accurately calibrated reference picture, and look more dull (but that's what we want). Yours should have a lot more 'pop' / vivid colors. If you want to try ours, you don't need to enter all white balance values. At the end of the day though, what matters is you like the picture on your TV, so if you prefer more vivid colors than accurate colors, stick to yours.
What would you guys recommend in an average room? I feel brightness at 5 is to low for where I am right now, but I don't know if just increasing brightness does other things to your settings.
Also, the 65"/75" models have 10p settings for Red, Blue, Green and the 55" doesn't, or you didn't include it. What's the purpose for those, and what settings do you think are worth using?
Changing the 'Brightness' setting is fine to do on this TV (contrary to other TVs). It won't matter for the other settings.
The 55" too has the 10p settings, but we don't currently do a 10 pt calibration (soon, we just ordered a new spectrophotometer). Our 2 pt calibration works along the same lines, since both are used to adjust the grayscale at various shades of gray. You shouldn't copy our settings, though. Each individual unit requires its own settings, so we can't recommend any for your TV. You would need to adjust them yourself with a colorimeter, or else get a professional calibration done.
I don't understand in the recommended settings. Why do you have so many images and settings shown for color temperature? There are sentences or paragraphs explaining each. Can you please elaborate further?
You need to use them all. Each image has settings for a different white balance value, from 10% white to 100% white. The settings alter the red/green/blue composition of those shades, and getting the balance right for each will make those shades, and the general picture of the TV, look correct.
I'm having issues where the corners of the screen are suppose to be dark, but they look gray. So far I've only noticed it when I play video games
It's likely just a uniformity issue. This is normal for LED TVs, unfortunately, and corners are especially susceptible. If you want us to weigh in on it for you, you can email us a photo of the problem and we can let you know whether its within normal limits, or if you should make an exchange.
Obviously, it'd be different for every type of room, but would you say that these settings are similar to what professional calibrations would be?
Yes. It's only really the backlight that will be different, depending on the amount of light. The color settings are also going to be unique to each TV. Our settings will get you 95% of the way to ideal picture.
I have a 65" X850c
. While watching dark colors or during dark scenes, I get a grainy or snow-like effect. How can I change this?
First, try enabling the 'Random noise reduction' and 'Digital noise reduction' features to clear that up. If that doesn't work, try resetting the Adv. Color Temperature settings to default. The latter option can prevent color banding, which can sometimes create graininess.
The TV settings you provided were excellent, it really brought the Sony to life. Question about a Blu Ray player: I was using my older higher end Sharp Blu Ray player until it died and then switched over to a Sony BDP-S6500 (running an older Chocolate AudioQuest HDMI). When I started to use the Sony player, I noticed the motion, clarity, shadows, and blacks looked different from the Sharp player, almost worse. I turned off all the internal player settings for 4k upscaling and now looks a little better but still not as good. Any recommendations for Blu Ray player settings? Or any specific models to best run with the 850c? Thanks.
You don't want to have any processing on the video signal so set most settings to off or 'auto'. We haven't tried too many blu-ray players so we are not in a position to make models recommendation but if you want to replace yours, you might as well wait for the new 4k blu-ray players that are coming soon and that will support HDR. Your TV will support the format.
We just purchased the 65" 850C, and overall it's a nice TV. My biggest complaint is the noise I see when watching a Blu-ray on the TV. It has random little white dots dancing around the screen. I have adjusted the noise setting and it removes the white dots for the most part, but the picture quality just looks like it is filmed in dot matrix style. Is there something I am missing?
It sounds like there may be interference on the HDMI connection. Try using a different HDMI cable and see if you get different results. You might also want to try a different HDMI port on the TV, just in case there's a defect there. This is of course you are not referring to the grain in the footage itself, which is intended on a lot of movies.
For your Adv.Color Temp settings, did you use BT.2020? That makes my colors look really red tinted.
No, we used Rec. 709 for the calibration (so a setting of 'sRGB/BT.709' on the TV). Since the TV can't do full Rec. 2020, it's impossible to calibrate for that, and so Rec. 709 is the way to go for calibrated picture.
Are there any settings you can recommend for color on the Cinema Pro setting? Would like it to master in 4K, unless the settings you provided sharpen it to the same degree. Having issues with a washed-out looking picture for regular TV programming, and super-saturated reds.
Use our listed settings. They should work fine for that picture mode.
What settings do you recommend as optimal for gaming? I know the gaming mode reduces the input lag, but there are any additional settings I should adjust to get the better input lag or picture quality? With some other TV models, the input lag can be reduced further by renaming the input to PC. Have you tested this on this model Sony?
We've played around with all the settings, and the only way to get a (modest) decrease in input lag is to put the TV in game mode.
For gaming, you might want to try different values of 'Smoothness' and see what you prefer. The more you increase it, the less motion blur it has.
75" 850C - Thanks so much, for your website and settings for this set. The only settings I tweaked, from your recommendations, were a bit less color, and a bit less red, with the R/Gain. Beautiful!
Thank you for your feedback! We are happy to help.
I have a Sony Bravia X850C
55". When I turn on my TV, it flashes different colors on the screen like white, blue, green, etc. But you can hear the movie playing in the background. After five minutes the picture will pop in. Then the movie will flicker for another five minutes. Then it straightens itself out.
We haven't seen this issue, so we're not sure what the cause is. You should contact Sony support for assistance in correcting this.
Was just told by Sony Tech Support that in Advanced Settings, under the Motion Flow section, it is NOT possible to change the Clearness or Smoothness settings. Under what set of circumstances should I be allowed to change the Clearness and Smoothness Settings (while watching either the cable box or blue-ray disc)?
You need to use the 'Custom' option to gain access to the Clearness/Smoothness settings.
I did all the calibration settings and the picture looks awesome. House of Cards in 4K now has beautiful colors, really vibrant and atmospheric, but without being in any way over-saturated. Can I just ask, I have the 65" version and you mentioned maybe not doing the white balance the same. What setting on this weirdly-configured TV is the white balance? The color temperature?
Also, another quick question. It may be that I didn't notice it at the time, but I originally bought the LG UF8600. Light bleed and black uniformity were so bad that I had Best Buy replace it with this model, but to me it looks like 4K content (specifically House of Cards and Narcos) is grainier than on the LG.
Also, sometimes blacks/shadows seem to move a little as they transition to lighter tones. I have the same thing with a cheaper Sony 40", but not on my 1080p LG from 2014 and I didn't notice it on the LG UF8600 for the few days I had it. Any thoughts as to why that might be? Or a setting in the Sony which may counter-balance that?
It's the 'Adv. color temperature' setting that adjusts the white balance.
Try enabling 'Random noise reduction' and 'Digital noise reduction.' Those might eliminate some of the grain you're seeing.
For the moving blacks issue, it's likely just the response time of the TV. There won't be anything you can do to correct that.
I'm a bit confused on your recommended settings for motionflow. Would you recommend motionflow be turned off? Reading other questions about making adjustments to smoothness and clarity under the custom setting, and turning on motionflow under those settings results in a darker picture, so I was just wondering whether you recommend it on or off.
It's really a personal preference, so try it and stick to what you prefer. Most people prefer it off though. Motionflow does two main things: motion interpolation (soap opera effect), and black frame insertion/backlight strobing. The motion interpolation part (the 'Smoothness' slider) doesn't dim the screen. The second slider 'Clearness' does, which helps clarifying the movement.
If the x850c
TV doesn't support local dimming, how does it support HDR? Will we notice a difference in picture with HDR content?
In theory, HDR support only mean that a HDR signal can be displayed 'correcty' (without looking washed out) on a TV. In that way, the x850c
will be able to display HDR content but it won't get the best out of it because of no full array backlight and low peak brightness. That doesn't mean HDR will look bad on this TV, but certainly not the best. On the plus side, future HDR content will also make use of more colors, something the x850c will be able to deliver with its wider color gamut.
You said you recommend these settings for the 65" model, except for the white balance. Are you able to elaborate on that?
Every individual TV's color settings are unique, so the white balance settings we list are only guaranteed to work on our TV. They might improve picture on other sets, but they might not.
If you want to try them, you can enter our settings, see if they work, and then clear them if you determine that they've made the picture look worse.
Question about 4k upscaling: I have the XBR65X850C
and it's supposed to upscale to 4k, if I'm not mistaken. However, when I choose an input, it says 1080p on the top right. Am I missing something? Thank you for the settings, btw.
The resolution you're seeing listed is that of the signal being received by the TV. 4k TVs automatically upscale lower resolutions to 4k resolution, so you have nothing to worry about there. Keep in mind that this just makes the image fit the screen, and doesn't make the image look objectively better.
In your settings review of the X850C
, you said "'Black level' is the equivalent of 'Brightness' on other TVs. Do not touch this setting, or else you risk crushing the shadows." What does that mean? If i try to "play" with the black level, it may crush something in the TV system permanently? Thanks!
It just means that it can reduce the amount of detail you see in shadowy scenes, and so the picture won't be great. It won't damage anything in your TV.
How do you get a decent PC image on this model? I tried game mode and renaming the input to "PC". This wasn't an option, but there was a custom setting where I could type it in. Unsurprisingly, this didn't work.
Text looked horrendous and there was lots of banding and artifacts on my 4K video, which looks great on my Macbook.
Use either 'Game' or 'Graphics' mode, and then go to 'Settings -> 'External Inputs' -> 'HDMI Signal Format' and choose 'Enhanced.' That will get you great picture from your PC.
If you're still experiencing banding, you may want to try resetting the white balance/color settings and seeing if that helps. If it doesn't, it's likely a screen defect, and you'll need to make a return.
When I am on cable I can adjust the motion settings (I get very nauseous from the soap opera effect), but when I switch to streaming on the smart TV it won't let me turn the Motion setting off. I can't get to settings at all. It just takes me back to the home screen and puts me back to cable. Help! (when I am streaming Netflix, Vudu, Amazon, and Hulu through smart tv)
You are probably using the 'Home' button to access the settings. Use the 'Action menu' button instead and then go to 'Picture adjustments' -> 'Advanced settings' -> 'Motion' and turn off 'Motionflow'.
Came across your site while researching my TV purchase, which ended up being the XBR65X850C
. First order of business was to input your settings, which definitely improved the picture. After a few of weeks spent setting up the TV and a new receiver (Yamaha RX-A1050) in a 7.2.2 home theater, I had the set professionally calibrated by a Geek Squad tech. The process took over 2 hours and, I believe, was well worth the $250. I wanted to let the readers know that your color gamma adjustment points were VERY close to what my set needed.
The many setting recommendations that you've made on this site are greatly appreciated, since they have allowed me to make fine adjustments based on changing conditions (i.e. CineMotion), and to better understand standards such as BT.2020.
Thanks for hosting this site. Informative & educational!
Thanks for the calibration comparison! We're glad you found the website helpful. Enjoy the TV!
Are your motion settings also good for sports viewing or is there a 'Motionflow' setting you can recommend for this purpose?
It is a personal preference. Most people prefer 'Off' for sports, because the interpolation can sometimes makes the ball disappear. But try the different presets and stick to what looks best for you.
I just purchased this tv after going through a few 55EG9100
's due to panel defects. The 3d is extremely disappointing. Very noticeable flicker, almost removes the 3d effect. Is there specific settings to have for 3d to make this as close as possible to the passive experience I had with the LG? You say that 240hz tv's do much better, my refresh rate is only 120hz, am I doomed?
The 3D will never be close to looking like on passive TVs. Even 240 Hz TVs had this issue. At least, the advantage of active 3D is you have the full vertical resolution...
I just exchanged a buggy Vizio M for the 55" x850c
. It arrived today and I am currently trying to set up your picture calibrations. As I am doing this, I noticed a faint sound, like a plastic bag uncrinkling, or rain on a window. Irregular but persistent. It's the TV! What could be making this little crackle/pop noise in a brand new set? Is it a possible electrical failure? Do I need to make another exchange for another faulty set before even trying it out?
It is hard to say what is causing this. Our office isn't totally quiet but we don't hear any unusual sounds coming out of the x850c
. If you can't hear the sound during normal watching/listening, we wouldn't worry too much about it. But if the sound is omnipresent, try these few things before returning the TV. First, unplug all devices and see if the sound can still be heard with just the TV on. If it can't be heard, try different content on different devices with a different HDMI cable. If the bothering sound doesn't go away, then reset the TV to factory default and try to upgrade the firmware. If after all this you still can't pinpoint the problem then a return will have to be made.
I just have a few questions or just one really. What is CineMotion on the XBR65X850C
? What does this particular setting do and what are some best settings for it? Also, what is MotionFlow for? I have noticed that "Smooth" makes things seem more life-like and of more 4K quality. What do the other settings in MotionFlow do?
Cinemotion is the setting which is used to change the threshold to detect when movies are playing at 24Hz. When this is detected, it will reverse the 3:2 pulldown to play the movie smoothly. It was previously called 'Film mode' but changed name in a firmware update. Set 'Cinemotion' to high when watching movies for the best experience. 'MotionFlow' is used to introduce interpolation or backlight flicker, for smoother motion. Setting it to 'Smooth' introduces interpolation, without introducing backlight flicker. For an explanation of the custom values, look here
I just purchased a 55" x850c
and am quite disappointed. I have a wide seating arrangement and the contrast loss is so bad off axis. I am also suffering from the soap opera effect; it makes me nauseous. When I turn it off I see some blur. I came from two plasma TVs and absolutely love them, but don't have that option anymore. Should I consider the Samsung JU7100
while I am still in my return period? Both the Sony I bought and the Samsung I didn't looked great in the store.
Thanks for any help you can offer!
If you have a wide seating arrangement, the Samsung JU7100
won't be much better. You should pick up something with an IPS panel instead. That kind of TV has worse contrast, but a wider viewing angle. Unfortunately, with LED TVs you have to choose between contrast and viewing angle, and nothing can match plasma overall.
Of that kind of TV, the Sony X830C
is the best we've seen so far this year. Keep in mind, though, that the uniformity isn't great, and it also has a bit more motion blur than the X850C
You mention not using your recommended settings for the white balance on a 65". What white balance setting do you recommend? I have yet to locate where the change is made, but know that "Minority Report" via AppleTV was barely watchable due to many scenes being washed about by the white/light.
You would need to adjust the white balance using a colorimeter and calibration software, or get a professional calibration done.
The washing out shouldn't be caused by the white balance, though. Try copying all of our settings exactly, and make sure that your TV and your source have matching RGB settings (both either Full or Limited RGB).
Would you recommend carrying over all the advanced color temp and gamma point adjustments in HDR mode as well?? I just did the update and they did not carry over automatically in HDR mode.
No. Those settings only work for the Rec. 709 color space, which is the standard one used by 1080p and 4k TVs. The HDR mode exceeds Rec. 709, so our recommended settings won't apply.
Recently I bought the 50" Sony 800c model. I've started to see white clouds on the bottom of the screen during dark scenes. How can I fix this?
Also, would these settings you guys provide work for mine as well? Thanks.
You can try gently rubbing the cloudy areas with a soft cloth. This can sometimes help a bit.
And we recommend these settings
for your TV.
I use the action menu button, scroll down to picture settings, click it and then get booted out. So I can't even adjust anything. What can be causing this and how can I actually adjust settings?
We have seen this issue on ours, but only when the TV has just been turning on. If it also happens after a few minutes, try updating to the latest firmware to see if it fixes your issue.
Update: One of our visitor reported he 'Encountered the same issue after it had been working fine for a while. TV is on latest firmware, and had been powered on for hours. 'Restarting' the TV (Home -> Settings -> TV/About -> Restart) brought the menu back to life.'
Will your settings be close to accurate on the 75" set?
Yes, except the white balance settings we provide are only guaranteed to work with our unit.
I tried you optimization settings and I think the firmware updates renamed a few of the options, and frankly the final result was a little muted. I wonder if this is due to the firmware updates changing the options, or if my particular TV just needs calibration that differ from yours?
Are you planning on publishing an updated settings for this TV using screenshots from the new firmware?
here is at the latest firmware and none of the values needed to change. If you want a more vibrant look, increase 'Brightness' as much as you want. If you want colors that pop more, change 'Color Space' to 'BT.2020'.
I have been watching some movies on my new 55" 850c and it seems the music is very high volume and the voices are very low volume. Are there settings to control this?
There is an option that works very well for this called 'Voice Zoom'. Press the 'Action Menu' button on the remote and select 'Sound adjustments' then increase the 'Voice Zoom' value to increase voices volume only.
Thank you for the calibration info. It really brings the TV to life. I have quite a bit of experience editing photos, and none calibrating televisions. My opinion is that with your calibration recommendation, fully understanding that you are only providing a starting point, I'm not seeing any true reds. All the reds in the content I'm viewing, regardless of source, have a candy apple or burgundy look. It would be easiest to imagine the red in your website showing up the color with a richer, darker with almost a hint of purple. That said, what would be the easiest way to adjust this globally? It's very subtle, and if you recommend leaving it alone, I will.
While I'm at it, I'm finding very little 3D content that works with the recommended glasses. FYI I'm only talking about streaming sources, I haven't tried a disc yet.
One more, would you recommend turning off any upscaling features on my xbox one and directv receiver (routed through the xbox one) and letting the TV do the lions share of the work?
Sony TVs don't allow for calibrating the colorspace. You can only change the white balance, so it is very likely that you won't be able to fix your red issue. First, make sure you have set 'Color Space' to either 'Auto' or 'Rec 709'. After that, you could try displaying different shades of gray, and see if you like the whites, and maybe play with the 2pts white balance setting a little bit (but not the 10pts, because without a tool it is a bit overkill).
For 3D, you can also try the side-by-side (SBS), or over-under (OU) 3D content. You will just need to enable the corresponding 3D mode on the TV to match the content.
Yes, for upscaling, let the TV do everything. The least number of conversions steps, the better.
Your reviews overall were fantastic and lead to my purchase of the Sony X850C
75". I did your picture setting recommendations and the picture quality is great. I liked the toned down look, but noticed for some movies, it's a bit too gray. Do you have any recommendations to get a little more pop when watching movies?
Increase the 'Brightness' value first. It will change the backlight luminosity and can make a good difference. If that is not enough, you might like a colder 'Color temperature' (try 'Neutral'). If you would like more pops in the colors, increase the 'Color' slider gently.
HI! I am back with another question!
I run all my audio through an Onkyo 605. I want to be able to watch Amazon Prime, Netflix, etc. through the tv for 4k and run the audio to the receiver in order to listen in Dolby 5.1. How do I set up the 55x850c to send dolby 5.1 through the optical cable? Thanks! What an awesome site!
For sound played through apps, 5.1 will automatically work through the optical audio out as long as you select 'Audio System' in the 'Speakers' menu. On an additional note, the x850c
will also passthrough 5.1 DTS and 5.1 Dolby Digital signals from any of its HDMI ports.
You mention in your calibration settings that if you want to benefit from a wider color gamut set Colorspace to BT.2020. But then in another question asked here in this section someone asked "For your advanced color temp settings, did you use BT. 2020? That makes my colors look really red tinted". Then the reply was "No we used Rec.709 for the calibration. Since the TV can't do full Rec.2020, it's impossible to calibrate for that, and so Rec.709 is the way to go" So first question is, why even suggest using BT.2020 for a wider color gamut in your calibration settings if it's impossible to calibrate for that. Second question, via the firmware update this TV is now possible to do full BT.2020, because in your comment you said Rec.2020 which I believe are the same? Lastly, I don't believe there is a setting to look under Adv.Color temperature to set Rec.709 or BT.2020, that is only allowed to be set under the Color space setting under the Color menu?
'Rec.2020' and 'BT.2020' means the same thing. The term 'Rec BT.2020 UHD' is also used sometimes. It is impossible to calibrate for Rec.2020 because the TVs can't produce the full spectrum of colors. Under the 'Color Gamut' section of our review, you can see that the x850c
covers 65.3871% of full (100%) BT.2020. So even if the firmware say so, the x850c doesn't support full Rec.2020. We suggest to use the wider color gamut only to people that likes over saturated colors. To do that on the x850c, set 'Colorspace' to 'BT.2020' (under 'Advanced settings - 'Color').
I am considering buying either the xbr55x850c
or the un55ju7100
. My main concern is which will be better for HDR content? The price difference for me is $100 more for the Samsung.
The Samsung JU7100
doesn't officially support HDR so the x850c
would be the TV to get.
If I apply these exact settings to each picture mode, won't each picture mode then look identical? Or, will there be a difference in picture quality in each? For example, the settings you've provided us with, I've applied to Custom picture mode. Now, If I apply the same settings to the Vivid, Standard, Cinema Pro, Cinema Home, Sports, Animation, Photo-Vivid, Photo-Standard, Photo-Custom, Game, Graphics and HDR Video, will each of them look exactly like Custom or, will there still be slight differences between each picture mode? Thank you for taking my question and, furthermore, thank you for providing us with all of this wonderful information.
They would look all the same unless there is specific settings bound to some picture modes. For example, the HDR picture mode doesn't allow you to change the backlight setting. The Graphics picture mode enable chroma 4:4:4 by default that makes text sharper when using the TV as a PC monitor. But in general, yes, if you use the same settings in all picture modes they will all look the same.
Update 2017/03/24: A reader has pointed out that even at the same settings some picture modes are slightly different. They noticed small changes in colors and gamma curves. However these small differences are unlikely to impact picture quality significantly.
I currently own XBR55X850C
. It's hooked up to a PS4 and everything runs thru a receiver that can handle 4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4. My question is that does it hurt or help to turn on the "HDMI Signal Format - Enhanced"? I don't have a 4K source yet? Currently it's turned off.
No it does not hurt if it is turn on and it will only help when you will have a 4k source.
I'm currently using the above settings for my 60" Sony LED W610 series. It has really helped with the picture, its depth and color's. We also have a 51" Sony LCD, and the difference between the two is something else. The LCD seems to have more depth, of feeling like one is behind the camera. I can't understand why Sony refuses to put a CD in with the TV's. They used to be a wealth of information, and seemed to want to educate the consumer. Now we have to scrounge around for something they really should supply in the first place.
Glad to heard that our settings could help you get a better picture quality on your new TV.
I have a Sony XBR55X800B that I love. I noticed it weighs around 53 pounds. I see that the new X800C weighs only 40 pounds. Can that be right?
We haven't weighed it ourselves, so we can't confirm, but we expect that measurement is correct.
Does this setting work for last year model 70X850B?
They should work except everything under 'Adv. color temperature'.
What a great site, thanks! I used your color calibration for my 55X850C. However, many of the grays seem to have a greenish tint to them. I wonder if there is an adjustment you recommend I play with to remove that tint? Thank you.
First, reset everything under 'Adv. Color Temperature', because these settings varies per unit. If that doesn't solve it, reduce the 'G-Gain', as well as 'G-Bias'.
In a question above, there was a question about the HDR mode and color space. Can you explain how to enable the HDR mode as well as the expanded color gamut? Thanks! This site is amazing, by the way!
Sony's HDR feature (X-tended dynamic range) is not available on the X850C
, and won't be, since the TV can't do local dimming (both features work similarly). To change the color space, you need to go to the 'Color space' setting in 'Advanced settings' and then choose 'BT.2020.'
I love the picture using settings you recommend! Now that I went to the trouble of entering them, how do I make sure someone does not change them? I seem to recall seeing an option to "lock settings" but now that I need it, I can't find it. Could you provide menu commands to do this? Thanks for the help and a great picture.
Press the 'Home' button on the remote and got to 'Settings' - 'System Preferences' - 'Picture adjustments lock' and select 'Lock'. This won't prevent someone to change the picture mode but any other settings from within a picture mode will be locked.
My TV doesn't have film mode in advanced setting only CineMotion? Also you talk about Smoothness and Clearness settings but they are only available with Motionflow turned on, in your screenshot its turned off?
The 'Film mode' setting name has been changed to 'CineMotion' on the newer firmware version. The 'Smoothness' and 'Clearness' settings aren't active on our calibration settings. This is why 'Motionflow' is 'Off' (we turn off any video processing options to calibrate TVs). If you want, turning On 'Motionflow' will get you the soap opera effect.
I currently have the X810C
and thinking about upgrading to this X850C
for the HDR. Is the edge-lit panel on the 55" X850C an issue when watching movies? I saw a video on YouTube of the X850C showing House of Cards, and it was VERY noticeable that the left and right side had bad backlighting, while the center looked great.
The X810C is direct-lit and great, but the X850C's HDR support is tempting, even though it was through a later firmware upgrade. How was your experience on this TV with HDR content vs. native HDR TVs? Worth another $200?
Our unit had really great backlight uniformity, so we don't think there's anything to worry about. It sounds like you just saw a particularly bad unit.
As for HDR content, the X850C
isn't going to be anything special. It has the ability to display a wider range of colors, but it can't make highlights brighter, which is what HDR is all about.
If you'll be watching lots of UHD Blu-rays once they are released, the X850C's wide color gamut will be worth getting, since that content will take advantage of that capability. If not, you're better off saving money and getting the X810C
, since there won't be much else that the wide color gamut is useful for.
Can you explain what CineMotion is? From the above comments I realize that through firmware updates that the film mode setting was changed to CineMotion and in your calibration settings you have film mode set to High but what exactly does this film mode or CineMotion setting actually do in context of does it help improve picture quality because there is nothing out there that explains what the setting actually does? I also see that you have in your review of this TV I see to set the Motionflow setting of the TV to TrueCinema to accomplish the reverse 3:2 pulldown and it won't add the soap opera effect, but from my limited time spent with the TV and understanding it seems in the past that Film Mode or CineMotion is what was used to detect film content and activate the reverse 3:2 pulldown? So if you could again I ask please explain what exactly CineMotion or Film Mode does and straighten out the confusion with the TrueCinema in context of what each setting actually does for the Sony x850c
? In advanced thank you for the time you guys take to answer these questions.
CineMotion does a few things. Basically, it changes the threshold of detection for all time sensitive motion compensation. This includes the reverse 3:2 pulldown. It also affects the motion interpolation feature (when 'MotionFlow' is activated). If you want to be really sure to not have any judder when watching movies, set 'MotionFlow' to 'TrueCinema', as well as 'CineMotion' to 'High'. Only setting 'MotionFlow' to 'TrueCinema' reduce the judder, but the reverse 3:2 pulldown won't be as consistent if 'CineMotion' is not enabled.
I have the 55" 850C and love it. I tried your settings and they look good. Do I still need to consider opting for a calibration by Best Buy's Geek Squad to get the best picture? Or, are your suggested settings pretty darned close? I don't want to particularly pay the $250 for their calbration. Thanks.
You most probably don't need a professional calibration. The differences between our settings and what you would get with a professional calibration aren't that much noticeable for an untrained eye. This isn't the case with all TVs but this one is pretty good out of the box.
Thanks for your excellent reviews that helped me in my buying decisions!
You write: "Update 12/16/2016: A new firmware update has been released to upgrade the TV to Android Marshmallow. This has reduced the 4k input lag (including HDR). When in HDR mode, the TV can't display chroma 4:4:4 accurately as it is forced into the 'HDR Video' picture mode."
Does this mean that if I update my X850C
to Marshallow it won't support "4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 + HDR" anymore, but it does now pre-marshallow?
That is correct, with the update to Marshmallow the TV lost the ability to properly display 4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 + HDR. However the only consumer use case that uses 4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 + HDR is PC gaming in HDR, so if you do not PC game in HDR then you will be unaffected by the loss of this feature.
What are the color gamma adjustment points? Which set of calibration settings should I use for the XBR55X850C
They're used for correctly setting the look of each of 10 shades of gray. You need to set every point for the calibration to be correct - you can't just do one.
Note that our settings are only guaranteed to work for our specific TV. They may work with some TVs, and may not with others. Try them out, but don't stick with them if they make the picture look bad.
I use my Xbox One for gaming as well as streaming. Is there a happy medium setting(s) you recommend for both gaming and streaming in the same HDMI input. Maybe set to 'game' mode then adjust something up or down inside that preset?
Our calibrated settings are good for all contents. If you wish to use one preset for both activities, try game mode with a combination of 'Random noise reduction' or 'Digital noise reduction'.
Can you please do this for the 75" Sony 940c, I can't find anything for my TV please.
Unfortunately, we have no plan to review the Sony x940c at the moment.
Thank you so much for this great site and information about calibration! I have a few questions, however.
1 - Does the calibration need to happen for each input individually?
2 - How do I calibrate for watching 4K content within the TV's apps? In other words, if I calibrate for HDMI 4, does that carry over to amazon instant video too?
3 - What is happening when I select "Live Football?"
Yes, you'll need to enter settings for each input, and for the apps separately from HDMI 4. The same settings will work well for everything, though, so it's just a matter of making the changes.
Live football seems to saturate the colors, increase the sharpness, and brighten the backlight. Some people like it, others don't. It's not the most 'accurate' picture, in terms of what people usually calibrate for.
Wow, this 55X850C is great. I love it, and I haven't even touched the surface of what it can do. Last year I bought five different TV models before I settled: 1 Sharp, 2 Sonys and 2 Samsungs. They all had some kind of problem. This time, the first one was great. I have to mess around with the settings, but factory settings seem OK - I just have to turn the interpolation on.
One thing: the WiFi doesn't seem to be compatible with both frequencies. I think it's the 5 Ghz that it's not compatible with. My router puts out three networks, and the TV is only picking up the guest and the first network, but not the second one.
It's normal. The help guide says 'The 5GHz band may not be supported depending on your region/country. If the 5GHz band is not supported, the TV can only connect to a wireless router (access point) using the 2.4GHz band.'
Glad to hear you're enjoying the TV!
Great site! Forgive me if you have already answered this question but could you please recommend HDMI cables that will take full advantage of this TV(XBR65X850C
)? I'm still confused about whether there is a difference between 1.4 and 2.0 and what size the cable should be. If you have specific brands you prefer I'd love your input. I'm running a Denon AVRX2200W Model: AVR-X2200W, a PlayStation 4 and a TimeWarner DVR cable box. Thank you!
We use this brand
in the office and it works well with all our devices. It will work the same for yours too.
In your calibration settings you show 10 different setting combinations I.e. R-Bias etc. I only see one screen not 10. How do I get to the other 9?
You need to switch 'Color Gamma Adjustment Points' to the value you want to change.
Is it possible to improve on the input lag with a firmware update? An update was recently released and I was wondering what changes you might have found if any. Is your input lag rating with game mode on and all settings off or did you adjust the game mode to your liking or for lowest lag rating? Thanks in advance for the help and keep up the good work.
Input lag can sometimes improve with a firmware update, but we haven't seen any improvements with our X850C
with any of the updates over the past months.
We did the game mode input lag assessment with as many features disabled as possible, so the lag is as low as we could make it.
What gives the best video image: Connecting Blu-ray, Xbox One, and Direct TV directly to the TV via HDMI, or connecting these devices directly to an Onkyo 4k receiver, then receiver to TV via hdmi and digital optical cable from receiver to TV for audio? I have the 75" version and an Onkyo TX-NR737 receiver. Thanks.
Either option should work just as well.
I have the XBR55X850C
TV. How do you put the TV in full and limited rgb? And does it matter which HDMI port I use for gaming on console and computer? Thank you.
Go to 'Picture and Display' > 'Dynamic Range' and then set whichever option you want for each HDMI input. And no, it doesn't matter which inputs you use for consoles or PC.
We are not taking any more questions for this product because we no longer have it in our lab.