The Sony W600B LED TV is a great budget gaming TV. However, it has a narrow viewing angle and it doesn't have advanced features like motion interpolation. These two issues shouldn't be a concern to gamers, though.
Great gaming TV. The input lag is low and when you turn on the LED Motion mode, the motion blur is limited.
Great picture quality for the price, both in dark and bright rooms.
No motion interpolation feature. If you like the soap opera effect for movies or TV shows, this isn't your TV.
Loss of saturation at an angle. The picture quality when viewed from the side is greatly reduced.
The design of the W600B is basic and similar to most other Sony TVs. The low profile stand supports the TV well and looks quite good, but the borders of the TV are a bit thick so there is some space before the picture starts.
The design of the Sony W600B is simple. The depth and borders of the frame are thicker than average, but the TV is very light.
The stand has a low profile. The TV also comes with everything you need to hang it on the wall, so you won't need to buy an additional wall mount.
The picture quality of the W600B is decent. The contrast ratio is fairly high so blacks are deep enough in a dark room. The uniformity is also very good, which is great. The picture quality does degrade when viewed at an angle, and the TV doesn't get very bright though.
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The contrast ratio isn't very impressive, but considering the price, we can't really complain. The blacks are still very good for an LED.
The motion handling of the W600B is good. The response time is fairly fast so the trail following fast moving objects isn't too long. It is possible to activate 'LED Motion Mode' which flickers the backlight to clear up moving images.
The motion blur is good for an LED. It is even better when using the LED Motion mode, which doesn't increase the input lag significantly, but reduces considerably the brightness (more details and a picture in the Q&A section).
If you are a gamer looking for a 40" or 48" LED TV that doesn't break your bank, the Sony KDL40W600B or the Sony KDL48W600B is your best bet. It has low input lag and offers great picture quality for the price. For use other than gaming, you will prefer the Samsung H6350.
In the comparison table, you said that W600B's refresh rate is 120Hz. Meanwhile, some other sources said that it's only 60Hz with 240Hz backlight scan. Which one is correct ?
We will know for sure when we test it, but it should be 120Hz. Update: It is 60Hz, because it lacks the motion interpolation feature. If you are a gamer, it doesn't matter. The motion handling is good and the LED Motion mode is useful for reducing the blur (better than motion interpolation on 120Hz TVs).
In game mode, you have the option to turn on LED Motion Mode without significantly increasing input lag (only about 5ms more). It is not the same thing as motion interpolation. It doesn't create new frames, but turns on the backlight for a very small amount of time per frame. This reduces the persistence of the picture, and thus reduces motion blur as well.
However, this mode isn't without its drawbacks. It significantly reduces the brightness of the screen and adds a slightly visible flickering (about the same as an old CRT).
I did buy this Sony TV based on you review and I'm so disappointed :( I had an LG model from 2011 and it worked fast! Let me explain. Now, with Sony, when I turn on the TV, if I press INPUT to select the HDMI input, I have to wait like 20-30 seconds and the TV displays 'Please wait'. The same thing with digital channels using cable. If you turn on the TV, and if you try to change the channel, you also have to wait like 10 seconds! Later, or if you turn the TV off and on, everything starts to work fast. But when you turn off the TV and try to use it again after like an hour, all the waiting time is back. Also, the software is really slow when you try to use apps, or plug in a USB drive. If, for example, LG displayed only file names, Sony tries to display pictured icons, and to generate that, you have to wait. So, if you plug in USB drive with 8 GB, and it has a few seasons of some TV series stored on it (300-400 Mb per episode), you will wait almost two minutes for the TV to list all the content. Maybe in the future try to focus part of the review on software? Because while picture quality is important, there will be minimal differences between the cheapest and most expensive TVs if they both display the same HD video.
Agreed. We also had the same issue with the USB drive (ours took 15 min to load everything because there weres 10,000+ files on it). We didn't mention anything about the software because we planned on doing a video review / article only on it later. Thanks for sharing your experience with it; others will find it useful to know.
Hi. Some people say that 60W600b has a 120hz panel, is edge-lit, and has some other features that are different from the 48W600b. How can we sure? Can you share a link of the 60W600b's specs? Will you review the 60W600b? Thanks. You are doing great job.
The 60W600B is not available in the US. Instead, there is the KDL60W630B. They changed the number because it is not the same TV; the refresh rate is different. It is currently not very high on our priority list, but we might get to it in a few weeks.
What are the best callibration settings for watching films and television shows on the Sony Bravia KDL-40W600B? It seems Cinema is the best option with regards to Scene Selection, and that lowering the brightness helps with noise/grain/pixelation. Are there any other settings that could be suggested (Noise Reduction?)? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
The Cinema scene with the picture settings that we posted would be a good start. From there, enable options according to your personal preferences (although for Blu-ray, we don't recommend any). Noise Reduction is meant for low bit rate media like cable or streaming.
Since LED Motion Mode reduces the brightness of the W600B considerably, could you please send us the best calibration setting for if we decide to turn it ON to get as good of an image as we would get if it was OFF, but with the advantage of the blur reduction? Thanks again, and I'm looking forward to the hockey season to start to watch it on my new TV :)
Try the same calibration settings that we posted. Turn on LED Motion Mode and bring the backlight setting to the max. Make sure also to disable the ECO settings (found in a separate menu at the top right corner of the smart hub).
Just bought this TV, it seems a bit slow and buggy on the software side. Had a couple of spontaneous reboots and periods of 1min+ no response to my remote. Any ideas? Did you notice this behavior?
Nothing that drastic, but the remote was laggy a few times (didn't respond for 5s). Pretty much all smart TVs are laggy, so we didn't think much of it. Did the reboots occur only when using the smart TV interface?
Hi Cedric! Thanks for the wonderful reviews. I've read a lot of reviews complaining about the W600B's flimsy build quality and being able to see the bright LED backlight through gaps between the panel and the bezel. Have you seen this issue with your test model? How does the build quality compare to the W800B?
The build is average-low for an LED in this price range. The frame is all plastic and very light (some TVs have a metal frame, but rare in this range). It might be due to the lightness, but it doesn't feel like a high-end TV. Our unit didn't have gaps like you mentioned, but I wouldn't be surprised if some units had some. The build of the W800B is very similar. In fact, it does seem even more flimsy, because the thin part of the TV's (top half) back is soft. When lifting the W800B to put it in place, I was actually surprised by this and worried about squishing it too hard with my fingers.
I purchased the Sony KDL48W600B 48-Inch 1080p 60Hz Smart LED TV - primarily for TV watching. Love everything about the TV except the picture quality on certain channels. I had cable come and replace the box and put all new cables in, but it made no difference. They are telling me it's the refresh rate. Sony disagrees. So with darker colors and skin tones you see a shadow of the same color overlaying the image. It's difficult to explain, but it's like a clear picture and then the something like a clear film gets overlayed on and off. It is driving me crazy. I have already taken this TV back and replaced it with the same TV at no change. Could this be the 60hz refresh rate? Sony tells me that the TV really has a refresh rate of 240. I am very confused and frustrated. Any thoughts on this?
That TV is 60Hz. The 240 number of Sony is just for marketing. A couple of things could cause this issue, but it depends on what you mean by this. Is it only when things are moving? If so, it could be motion blur. Try Cinema mode and turn 'LED Motion Mode' on/off to see if it changes anything. If it is also present with static objects, maybe it is a screen uniformity problem. Hard to tell without seeing it.
I'm looking for a 40" TV and my main options are: Sony W600B - Samsung UN40H6350 - Samsung UN40H5500 - Toshiba 40L3400U. Which of these is better in terms of image quality and handling motion blur? The main uses will be sports and video games. NOTE: I really like how it looks in 120Hz, and the soap opera effect does not bother me at all.
If you want the soap opera effect, you must eliminate the H5500 and 40L3400U from your list because they don't have that feature. We haven't tested the W600B yet, but based on the bigger W800B, it most likely will be the best for your usage. We will confirm this when we review it.
Update: The W600B doesn't have the soap opera effect, so even though the W600B is very good, it won't satisfy your needs. Get the Samsung UN40H6350 instead.
I am a big sports watcher (baseball, football). Is the W600B the TV I should get if that is the majority of what I watch?
This TV is good for sports, but you might want to get the Samsung UN40H6350 instead. A lot of people prefer to turn on the motion interpolation feature (not found on this Sony) for sports because it increases fluidity and reduces motion blur.
You mentioned a few times in the comments that if there was enough of a demand for a review for the W630B, you'd consider doing one. I'd like to voice my interest in a review. By the way, thank you so much for being just about the only review site that understands how to properly review a television and actually has a section dedicated to motion blur.
Your interest has been noted. And thanks for the feedback!
Comparing the W600B to the Samsung F5300, which is better for a gamer/movie watcher? It seems like the W600B is better in nearly all respects, except for black uniformity and viewing angle.
Yes, this is pretty much it. In a pitch dark room, the F5300 has better picture quality overall (although not as good blacks). As soon as you have a few lights on, it reflects too much light. The W600B is a more versatile TV.
What is the difference between a Sony 48w580b, a Sony 48w590b, and a Sony 48w600b?
They are basically the same TVs, but sold at different retailers (W600B = Amazon, W590B = Costco and W580B = Walmart). This practice is quite common, and one of the advantages (from a retailer perspective) is that it prevents price matches.
Does the 60w630b have clouding issues? I recently purchased one and in the lower left there are small clouds by the frame. I was wondering if I got a bad one or if this is normal. Only noticeable in a very dark room.
Every LED TV can have clouding. The bigger it is, the more likely clouding will be present. If it is only noticeable in a very dark room, it isn't very bad. If you want, you can try a simple trick to reduce it. It doesn't always work, but it takes only a few seconds to try: massage the screen using a soft cloth where the clouding is. You don't need a lot of pressure, just enough to move that little bit the screen.
Thanks for the assist on the 40w600b settings to reduce minimize judder; however, selecting cinema and then cinemotion do nothing. This is a good gaming TV, but to those of you out there that want a TV for movies as well, stay away. I'll check out the 50w800b in the store and if it's basically the same, I guess I'll be going back to a Samsung set and living with mediocre input lag. I'm open to any other suggestions, either setting adjustments or another TV - I'm thinking h6350/h7150. Thanks again for the timely reply/assist - this site and its staff are a godsend.
I am still skeptical that your judder issue can't be fixed. Just to make sure we are on the same page, by judder, you mean an uneven frame time? Maybe you really mean either a shutter effect or something related to frame rate. This TV does not have motion interpolation, so it won't give out that smooth look. Also, have you confirmed that the TV receives a 24 fps signal? Pressing the Display button on the remote should bring up that info.
I am looking for a new TV for the PS4 I'm getting. I would just like to know if this TV would be good for my gaming needs and Blu-Ray watching, and what the best setting would be to put it on when I'm gaming (if I need to put it on game mode, turn a feature on, etc). Thank you so much!
Yes, this is a great TV for both gaming and Blu-rays. As for the settings, you can use the ones that we posted in a sub-page of this review for both gaming and movies.
Excellent website and ratings, I must say.
Currently, the KDL48W600B is $300 (CAD) cheaper than KDL50W800B. All things considered, in your opinion, is the KDL50W800B worth the difference? Just want to add that it won't be used as a gaming TV, and that 3D is not important. Thank you.
If you won't use it as a gaming TV or 3D, it is less worth it. The W800B still has superior picture quality, but only by a relatively small margin, so go for the W600B.
How would you describe the difference in picture quality between the W600B and W800B models? I've looked at both in the store and it seems like the W800B has noticeably better depth and clarity to it; although, that may be in large part due to the W800B being set up with Sony's own 1080p display video whereas the W600B was not.
The W800B is slightly better in every respect, except uniformity. It also has more features, like 3D and motion interpolation. The difference isn't very big though, so if you are on a budget, the W600B is still a great choice.
Are you going to review the 48" version of the W600B? The 40" input lag is worse than most recent Sonys. I wonder if the 48" is any better.
We are picking up our 40" tomorrow. There is usually no difference in terms of input lag. Update: We got a 48" instead. The input lag is slightly more than on the W800B, but it is very unlikely that you can tell a difference. 34ms is still very good.
I'm trying to find the best gaming set with the most uniform screen. I returned a Vizio a few weeks ago because of input lag and dark corners. Would you recommend the W600B over the W800B (or any other set)?
The W600B has one of the best uniformities that we have tested so far. It had a better uniformity than our W800B. It doesn't get much better than this for an LED. Keep in mind, though, that the uniformity varies by unit, so if you are unlucky, you could still get a bad one. The input lag is slightly higher on the W600B than the W800B, but it is still really great and not noticeable. The W800B has more features (like motion interpolation and 3D) and slightly better picture quality (less motion blur), so go for that one if you don't mind its higher price.
I bought this TV yesterday and I am so disappointed with the software. It's too slow. I use a 500 gb external hard drive and it takes time to load. I find my 32w67 better when it comes to software. One more thing: I thought it had a built-in wall mount like my w67, but it doesn't.
Yes, as already mentioned, the interface takes a long time to boot and large USB drives take a long time to load.
I bought the Sony W600B in March. This TV is awesome. I was planing to buy another TV, based on reviews on your website I bought the Samsung H6350. I returned the Samsung H6350 and bought the Sony W600B due to following reasons. Sony is a real winner if you want to watch movies, TV shows and games.
a) Picture quality and clarity is far better with Sony than Samsung. I tried to change every single setting on Samsung but could not get a picture like Sony.
b) With Sony, you will feel that you are watching real things while in Samsung, you will not get that effect.
c) I have watched football on both TVs but haven't seen any motion blur.
d) Samsung has better smart features, but they're not worth it. Your TV will be smarter if you can buy Google Chrome/Roku, etc. Netflix/Youtube work fine on both. Both TVs do not support Screen mirroring with Dell/Lenovo/Apple products.
So based on my personal experience, I like Sony W600B.
Thanks you for sharing your experience with these TVs.
So I just ordered this TV, I'm anxious! Do you know if it has a feature to turn off the screen while still being able to play music though speakers (some low end LGs are able to do that). I'm going to connect it to a home theater and it will be awesome that when not in use I could stream music and sound from my Mac to an Apple TV via Airplay. Thank you in advance.
Yes, almost every TV has that feature. It is a bit hidden on the W600B, though. Home Button -> Settings -> Preferences -> Eco -> Power Saving -> Picture Off.
Thanks for checking the 48" W600B! Too bad the input lag is the same as the 40".
A suggestion: it would be nice to know in each review which specific model was reviewed. Different sizes of the same model aren't always the same. E.g., input lag differences (see 32W653 vs 42W653), or backlight irregularities in larger models, etc.
Thanks for the feedback. We will think of a way to make it clear which size we tested.
I just bought the 48w600b and noticed that in dark scenes on cable there is noise or static with some movies. I'm using the cinema setting, which seems to be the best. Is there some setting that needs to be adjusted? Also, whenever I turn on the noise reduction setting it creates ghosting when watching dark scenes on blurs.
Yeah, it is very hard to compensate for low quality media. Even HD Channels have a low bit rate, unfortunately. The noise reduction settings are the ones to play with in your case, but as you mentioned, it creates artifacts. Unfortunately, to fix it completely, you need to find a middle ground between noise and artifacts.
Just bought a UN40H6350. I'm on the second one, because the first had very bad blotches. Saw the Sony 600B playing the Sony media box demo in another store. Picture was very good, but when it got to the 24fps panning scene, there was a lot of studder or jerkiness. My 6350 also showed the same in a Blue Jasmine party scene when panning, but judder control was 0. Set to 5-7 okay. Does the Sony have this control and maybe has it switched off by default? Really struggling with picture color and dark scene quality on second 6350, so I may bring it back. Would the Sony be better apart from internet apps?
The W600B does support 24p, so either the source of the store wasn't in 24fps or it wasn't enabled. The equivalent setting on your Samsung is called Film Mode (which is slightly different than the judder control). Your Samsung is good, though. Have you tried our picture settings to fix your issues with picture quality?
I am comparing the Sony 40" W600B and the Sony 42" W700B. Are you guys planning a review of the W700B? If not, are there any major differences between the two televisions besides two inches of screen size? (they are both 1080p, 60hz, 240XR Motionflow and 2D smart LED TVs)
We won't review the 42" W700B because it is not available in the US. On paper, it is a completely different TV. The 42" W700B most likely has an IPS panel, which means lower contrast but a better viewing angle. For other sizes (50" and 55"), we expect the W700B to have the same picture quality as the W800B.
I love the in-depth reviews you guys provide! I'm currently trying to decide on a strictly gaming TV and am stuck between the 40" Sony W600B and the 42" LG LB6300. Input lag is a wash between the two, so now I'm deciding based on picture quality. Price difference isn't a huge factor for me, but minimizing motion blur is important. I like the slightly larger size of the LG. For gaming, which do you recommend between these two? Why?
Get the Sony W600B. The LG LB6300 has a very poor contrast ratio. This means that if you have a dark room, the black color will appear gray. The viewing angle is a lot better than the Sony W600B, but most gamers sit directly in front of the TV anyway.
I just bought the Sony KDL-48w590b from Sam's Club and was about to take it back. The picture was worse than my old Westinghouse TV until I messed with the settings and began to learn more about them. The settings right out of the factory are not good. The picture was blown up and was looking blurry. After a little bit of fiddling, I finally got the picture to look great. If you turn on LED motion it makes the picture so dim, and if you turn on the Eco mode the same thing happens. I picked this TV because the display model looked better than the Samsung next to it. I switched out a Samsung plasma for LED because we were having trouble seeing the TV on bright days. If you buy the Sony, mess with factory settings before giving up and taking it back.
Thanks for sharing your experience with it! Having the correct settings does indeed make a big difference.
I went to Best Buy to get the Samsung UN40H6350 today. Sony W600B was on display too. Both were priced equally. Sony's picture quality was strikingly better than Samsung. The Best Buy guys also recommended Sony. I came back quite confused and happened to read your detailed reviews, which incline towards the Samsung H6350. Could the picture quality differences be due to calibration differences?
Both are great TVs and are very similar. The difference that you saw was probably due to the different calibration. It is a close call between the two. The Sony has a slight advantage for video games (lower input lag) and the Samsung for extra features (motion interpolation and better smart features), which is why we recommend the Samsung for most people and the Sony for gamers.
I currently represent Sony Sales at Best Buy and wanted to know why you list the W600B as discontinued? Sony will continue to sell through 2015 the W600B, X800B, X950B and considers them as part of their current lineup.
Thanks for letting us know. We will update our website.
Consumer Reports recommends the Sony KDL40W600B, but noted there were issues with motion and deinterlacing. Would those issues have an adverse affect when watching cable or Blu-ray? I am considering this TV for a bedroom. Or would the Samsung H6350 be a better choice?
Deinterlacing is not an issue, because it is rare now for a TV to receive such signals. Your Blu-ray player outputs in progressive and your cable box probably has the option to do the deinterlacing itself. So do not worry about this. The H6350 is better overall (except for the input lag), especially for its software features, but it is also a few hundred dollars pricier. Therefore, if you are on a budget, get the Sony, and otherwise get the Samsung. Both are great anyway.
I love Sony, but I like a big screen TV at a budget price. Do I really need things like internet access apps built into the TV? This is why I don't want to buy internet contracts, just because the TV has internet apps. And I don't always watch 3D movies. Maybe once every three months. Does this mean its a must to buy that model of Sony W600b or the W800b with 3D? Or not really? I just want good quality sound and picture, and Blu-ray look-alike images for movies and documents and TV shows. But I also want features, but not just internet and 3D. Will the W600B and the W800b be my thing?
If you want good picture quality nowadays, you pretty much have to buy a TV with extra features like 3D or smart functions. Higher-end models have better picture quality, and manufactures also put more features on them. There is no way around this, unlike in previous years. As for which one to buy, both the W600B and W800B are good in their relative price ranges. The W800B has slightly better picture quality, but it is also pricier. If you think the price difference between them is huge, you will probably be happier with the W600B.
Just purchased the TV. I noticed some pretty massive clouding near the right side of the screen. Should I take it back? Maybe just some bad luck. Or is there anything I can do adjust screws or whatnot?
Try two things before returning it: 1) Take a soft dry cloth and rub the affected area gently. 2) Try making a slight adjustment (not by much) to the screws at the back near that corner. If these tricks don't work, return the TV.
Did Sony release a software update for the 40W600B/48W600B to reduce the time it takes to boot and list USB files? I have a Sony Blu-ray player, BDP-S590, which is relatively quick in showing apps and listing USB files, in addition to a PS4 that I also plan to connect. It's not a major issue if the 40W600B is still slow, since I also plan to get an Android TV or Apple TV box in the future. Suffice it to say, I'm grateful for having 4 HDMI ports.
We were told that an update was released that addressed this problem for the W800B model, but we have been unable to confirm it for ourselves as we no longer have a Sony TV. If a fix was made, it's likely a similar patch would have been issued for the W600B.
Just got off of a chat with Sony support and wanted to let everyone know that using a wireless DualShock 3 controller for PlayStation Now with the KDL-W590B does not work. The controller must be connected via USB cable at all times. Apparently it will work with the KDL-W600B, but not the 590B. Of course, the marketing materials don't say anything about this, so be warned.
Thanks for letting us know about this. Other readers will find this useful.
Cedric, Thank you for your extensive reviews. I am torn between the Sony KDL48W600B and the samsung UN48H6350. Right now, the price points are within $100 (Samsung is on sale). I've always been a Sony person, but based on reviews about smart TVs in general, I'm not sure which to buy. I'm not looking for any particular perks. I just need a new TV and want to get more bang for my buck. Any recommendation would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
It's very close. The W600B has slightly better uniformity than the H6350, and their contrast is about the same, but the 6350 has less motion blur, meaning it's better at displaying fast-moving content like sports and video games.
Really, the 6350's main selling points here are in the features it has that the W600B doesn't: its motion interpolation feature and its better Smart functions. If you don't mind paying the extra $100, it might be nice to have the option to use Samsung's smart apps, or to enable motion interpolation, and you'll appreciate less motion blur if you watch sports or play games. If you just plan on watching movies and TV shows, the Sony TV will be fine.
I just bought the KDL50W700B, I am looking for some calibration settings. Could I use the ones you posted for the W600B? Also, are the W700B and the W800B the same TV, apart from 3D? That is what the guy at Best Buy told me, but I am a bit skeptical, and I could not find info on the 700B elsewhere.
The picture settings from the W800B would probably be more similar. For example, the W600B doesn't have MotionFlow. On paper, the W700B indeed looks exactly the same as the W800B, minus 3D. As a side note, other countries have the 42" size for the W700B. That one has an IPS panel, so it has completely different picture quality. The US 50" and 55" W700B probably have the same panel as the W800B.
What is a good viewing distance from a 46 inch TV to a 48 inch, and which brand would be good for gaming and at a good price for those specific sizes?
You can get close to a TV in this size range. Seven feet would be good if you want good immersion. As for which one to buy, it depends on your budget. The Sony KDL48W600B is a really good TV for gamers.
Hello, just purchased this unit. The first unit had about five stuck/dead pixels, and now the second unit has really bad clouding on the left side. Is the quality control typically this poor with Sony? Should I try a third unit?
It's likely that you just got unlucky twice. Try for a third unit and see if it is any better, and feel free to email us with a picture of the screen if you want us to weigh in on it for you.
I recently bought a Panasonic tc-39as530u for the purposes of gaming in a bedroom, but I'm thinking of returning it because I'm seeing some "noise"/distortion around the players in FIFA when the screen pans quickly. I know that you haven't reviewed this model, but I'm wondering whether you'd think going with the Sony w600b would be a good bet. My primary concern is with dropping from a native refresh rate of 120 with the Panasonic to a 60 with the Sony w600b.
First, verify that the noise is in fact motion blur, not artifacts. More precisely, make sure you disable the soap opera effect feature. If it is turned on, fast-moving objects will have glitches appearing (like the head of a person disappearing or the ball). If you are wondering what these distortions look like, check out our video here. As for the 60Hz vs 120Hz TV, the motion blur is more often than not the same, given the same frame rate as the input.
If the Sony W600B uses a 60Hz panel, how does it handle 24p content? Is it 2:2 pulldown running at 48Hz, a 3:2 pulldown, or something else entirely?
It doesn't work like this anymore; this was a legacy issue. Now, panels can change their frame rates. So 24p content is just displayed as 24 frames per second. Not all 60Hz TVs support 24p though, mostly because they want to save on the cost of the necessary surrounding electronics.
I've recently tried the KDL40w600b and it has significant judder. My previous set (Samsung ln32b640-120hz-lcd) had no noticeable judder whatsoever - very smooth. I've run the same Blu-ray disc on both TVs, so I know it's not the source. Is there some setting I'm missing that can eliminate this? I've tried the led motion setting, but doesn't really help whatsoever. I would prefer to go with Sony because of their input lag rating. If I'm not missing any settings on this W600b, can you please recommend a TV that can virtually eliminate/minimize judder? I noticed on my old Samsung that it has custom judder controls, but the Sony apparently has nothing like this. I'm guessing Samsung is the only one that has this option? Any input would be greatly appreciated. I'm a heavy consumer of both games and movies/anime, so both input lag and judder reduction are important. As an engineer I expect to put a lot of thought into what I do at work; never thought I'd have to go through all this just to find a decent TV :(
Judder can almost always be eliminated, and it is usually a configuration issue. The first step is to identify the type of judder. From what you are saying, it looks like it is only happening with 24 fps footage (Blu-rays)? If this is true, this means it is the 3:2 pullback judder. This is an easy fix, because the W600B supports 24p. Set the Scene to Cinema. In settings, make sure CineMotion is turned On. That should get rid of it.
The grey uniformity image you posted seems to indicate a slight dirty screen effect in the form of verticalish slight dark bars. Can you confirm this? I bought this TV and in sky panning scenes I do notice some slight dirty screen effects. Just wondering if you noticed it as well?
Yes. Every LED TV has this issue to an extent, especially within this price range.
I'm considering the 40W600B to replace my 32" Sony 32XBR4, which I purchased in 2007 for my bedroom. It will be used primarily for my PS4, but also some TV and movies via the USB port. I have a Sony 40EX640, which I purchased two years ago for my living room, and I wonder if the 40W600B compares favorably to it.
What's your opinion on 4K? Does it make sense to wait for prices to come down more, say, under $1K? I ask because I recently toyed with the possibility of putting my 40EX640 into my bedroom and purchasing the recently announced 43" 43X830C 4K TV from Sony. The recently leaked price of $1,200 has me back to my original plan with the 40W600B.
Unfortunately, we did not test the Sony 40Ex640, so we can't say for sure how it stacks up against the W600B. That said, they're likely similar in terms of picture quality.
It's not a bad idea to get one of the upcoming 4k TVs, but 4k content is still limited, and the price difference between those TVs is substantial. You would also have to sit quite close to a 43" 4k TV to appreciate the increased resolution. It's probably not worth it in this situation, so you're better off saving your money and getting the W600B.
Hi. I've been through a few TVs - probably too many - because I'm looking for one with a great clear picture. I had a Samsung H6203 - great picture with slow smart functions. Decided to exchange for Samsung H6350, and the smart functions are faster, but the picture seems grainy, and when watching some movies I get an almost grainy, shadowy appearance.
Don't know if it has anything to do with the matte screen vs the glossier screen, but I'm very unhappy with the picture quality. So I've been shopping again and exchanged for a Sony Bravia KDL60W630B. I noticed on the specs that although it's a 1080p TV, the maximum resolution is listed as 1024x1080 (and the W850B is listed as 1920x1080).
Is this correct, and does is make a difference in a clearer, crisper picture? The 850B is going for about $130 more, including tax, and if I will be able to see a noticeable difference because of the resolution, I'll probably put out the extra, OR go with the Samsung H7150 instead - although I am concerned about getting another Samsung without it being a 55 or 65 inch because of the panel lottery.
My primary and most important concern is good, clear, crisp picture quality - I'm not a gamer, and I can deal with a slower processor to get a great picture. Thanks.
No, the W630B has a resolution of 1920x1080. The W850B does have better picture quality, but that is mostly because it has less blur and can get brighter.
For the Samsung H6350, you can reduce the graininess of some videos (cable/streaming) by enabling the "MPEG Noise Filter" and "Digital Clean View" settings. Those cut down on the compression artifacts in lower-quality signals, and most other TVs will have an equivalent feature.
If you get the W630B and decide you are not happy with it, the H7150 is your best bet for great picture. The panel lottery is not that big of a deal - most people can't tell the difference between different panels - so don't let that put you off.
You listed the Sony W600B as discontinued, but it is in fact still available direct through Sony, Amazon, and partner stores. Prices dropped recently to almost $400 even. Would you still recommend the 40" at this price, given the newer sets now available?
It's a good option for a room with a few lights. We prefer the J6200 for a dark room - the lower amount of motion blur is tough to beat, and the overall picture is very good - but the Sony W600B gets a good deal brighter, and the overall picture is still good.
We're aware that the W600B and a few other 2014 Sony models are still available, but since we didn't run them through our 2015 test suite, it's not fair to compare them side by side with newer models. That's why we have them listed with the other 2014 models (and older), in 'discontinued'.
Great job! I have learned a lot about LEDs from the reviews. If one needs a TV just for movies and with a budget of less than $800 CAD, which do you suggest? I typically connect my laptop and am concerned about slow software with some of the LEDs. Can you suggest a good LED (Max screen size 48")
We don't follow Canadian prices yet, but the KDL48W600B would be great if it fits your budget. That said, from a quick search of Canadian retail stores, it doesn't look like it will, and you will have to go down in size because very few do, so go for the KDL40W600B instead.
I am planning to purchase the KDL-40w600b next month, but my concern is that the built-in speaker sound is too weak (16 watts in total). What speaker can I use to enhance audio output when watching regular TV broadcasts?
The TV has a Digital Audio Optical Output, so you can use any sound system/bar that uses this (nearly all of them).
If we are primarily using this tv for regular tv shoes, movies, and DVD's, would the lag time mentioned above be an issue? For example, changing channels, going to Netflix, etc? Or was this primarily an issue when uploading via USB?
Not really. The smart features take a long time to boot, but once booted they work well (except for the USB).
How would you compare the Vizio M492i-B2 against the Sony KDL48W600B? I just purchased the Vizio M492i-B2 and am noticing a great deal of inconsistency in the black uniformity, which I notice very often, along with seeing the LED panels during quick transitions from light to dark. There are several different technologies at play here, to my knowledge, but I am curious about what your thoughts are between the two of them. I am considering taking my Vizio back to get the Sony, or even going bigger and getting the KDL50W800B, but don't know if it is worth the extra $300 to $400 dollars, as I am on a budget. Thanks!
They are really different. The M492i-B2, due to its poor black levels, has indeed got a lot more black uniformity issues. To prevent the transition inconsistency that you describe, disable the Active LED Zones feature. But in a dark room, the KDL48W600B is indeed better. The KDL50W800B is even better, both in terms of motion and uniformity. Whether the KDL50W800B is worth the upgrade over the KDL48W600B really depends on how you perceive the price difference. If you really care about the picture quality, it is worth it. But if you have a really tight budget, the KDL48W600B is still good.
Did you see any dse when reviewing the W600B? I have a Samsung H5000 and it suffers quite badly from it. I watch a lot of sports and once noticed it's hard to ignore!
Picture quality is very good otherwise. I follow AVForums and have noticed that many owners of the H6400 have reported dse on their sets too. Are Samsung LED's particularly prone to this issue? I wonder if Sonys perform better in this regard. Another alternative could be the Samsung PE51H4500 plasma. But then I might get into a whole new problem with screen reflections! I'd also just like to say that I think 48" is a great TV size. Thanks for providing such an informative Q&A!
Slightly on the W600B, but not much. As a rule of thumb, the amount of DSE per brand is: LG > Vizio > Samsung and Sony (so LG is the worst). Within a brand, the cheaper you go, the more DSE you will have. You cannot expect perfect uniformity though, no LED TV has that - not even the pricier models.
Hello, I am planning on buying the Sony W600b soon. I have been researching a lot and can't find any real information on the "X-Reality Pro" technology anywhere. Did you by chance test it during your review? I watch a lot of old anime as well as stream it. If it really works the way Sony says it does, it should help me a lot, correct? Thank you very much for any and all help.
The 'X-Reality Pro' is not a specific feature that you can turn on or off. It is Sony's marketing term that encompass all the processing of the TV (upscaling, noise reduction, details enhancer, etc). You can control these settings separately. They do work, but the difference isn't big.
I'm trying to find a TV with the best black levels (I can't stand blooming), but also good input lag. I have been reading on your website about the Sonys, the Vizio E and M, and Samsung 7150. For size, something within the 45 to 50 inch range. My price range is up to $1,200 if it is worth it.
They all have relatively the same native black level. Almost every LED TV is the same in this regard. If you really want good input lag, get the Sony KDL50W800B. It is a great gaming TV.
I just bought this after much deliberation. My question is: can you tell me your lag measurements with motion ON and with it OFF?
I ask cause you said it adds a small amount. Also, because DisplayLag.com & HDTVTest rated the same model at 29ms vs. your 33, I'm assuming the difference is having the motion setting disabled on their tests and enabled on yours.
I know it's a very small difference, but I wanted sub 30ms. I actually just stopped playing on my 24" HD CRT by Sony since Xbox One doesn't have a simple way to use VGA and I just switched from 360.
The input lag is not a fixed number. It actually varies constantly. If I remember correctly, on this TV it was varying between 28ms and 37ms, with 33 ms being the most common. This is with Motion off, not on. Therefore, don't worry about this. You can't tell a difference of 5ms of input lag anyway.
Hi. Like everyone else here, I love your reviews. Professional, no-nonsense, honest, straight reporting, and exceptionally well done. I just bought the 48W600B and your review was quite accurate. Thank you! But I do see an issue. Watching HBO GO through an AppleTV connected to this TV, certain camera moves create strobing in the picture. It looks very stuttery during the move. The opposite of motion blur. Is there a setting that will get rid of this stutter in movements?
Unfortunately no. This is an issue with the Apple TV outputting at 30fps instead of 24fps. If the problem also happens with a Blu-ray player (which does output at 24 fps), turn on the CineMotion setting.
Yesterday I purchased the KDL48W600B to replace a nine-year-old Sony KDL40V2500 LCD TV. I was expecting a dramatic improvement between this new Bravia model versus the old, but in some regards, my older television was better. First, the sound of the new model is very tinny and cheap sounding. The integrated speakers of the older TV were much better. Second, the picture of the new TV seems inferior. The older TV had sharper, richer, and more natural colors and contrast. The newer TV has a grayer, dull hue - almost like a projection TV. This difference between the TVs seems more pronounced when watching 480i or 720p content. I realize there are many picture settings I can adjust, and I have tried some, but so far it seems the older Bravia LCD excelled with lower-resolution content. Lastly, the build quality of the older TV was much more solid and refined. (The older TV was 40 inches whereas the new is 48. My viewing distance is seven feet.). I was expecting a dramatic difference between a new TV and one that is nine years old, so it's disappointing that sound, picture, and build quality are worse in some cases. Is there a different Sony model that would be a more obvious improvement over my older Bravia?
This is normal. The picture quality has plateaued in the last few years for LCD/LED TVs. The only reason to buy a new TV is to upgrade the size, not the picture quality. The picture quality shouldn't be worse, though. Try our calibration settings that we posted.
What is your opinion on 3D? I am not an early adopter, and have not tried it. Is it a novelty (like curved), or here to stay?
It is not as much of a gimmick as a curved TV, but in its current form, 3D will probably never catch on. For example, Vizio even removed the 3D feature on all their current TVs. There are two reasons for this. 1) The cost of producing a movie in native 3D is substantially higher, so the content available in 3D is limited. 2) Current 3D TVs require glasses, which is not convenient.
When I turn on LED Motion Mode, I basically get double vision in GTA V. It's especially noticeable when slowly panning and if I'm looking at a person I see two heads as if I'm cross-eyed. Is it possible to eliminate this?
This is normal. Unfortunately, you'll have to choose between this double vision or the blur you get without LED Motion enabled.
I am waiting for the new versions of the Sony kdl48w600b and Samsung un48h6350 to be announced. We like sports and no gaming. We are replacing a 2006 40" Sony that still has perfect picture. Athens prices on last year's models are being slashed daily on Amazon, etc. Should we wait for the new models? Will the 600b model be 120hz? etc.
There's no need to wait for the new models to come out. Generally, the only differences you get are some aesthetic tweaks and new software. You might as well pick up last year's model and save yourself some money.
Sony has announced only one line of 1080p TVs for 2015: the KDL-W850C, available in 50", 55", 65", and 75", and it has not been announced what kind of panel these TVs will have. The rest of its lineup will be 4k. We don't know how similar any of the TVs might be to the W600B.
Wonderful & very informative site, you do great work here, kind sir. Have you reviewed the Sony 60" model KDL60W630B yet? I would like the calibration/picture settings, please. Thank you in advance! :-)
Unfortunately, we did not review that TV last year, so we don't have any specific settings to recommend. That said, the TV is quite similar to the W800B (calibration settings found here, so you may have some luck using those as a starting point.
I have a Pioneer Kuro PDP-4280 HD. How does it compare with the 48W600B? My Pioneer is broken and I'm wondering if I should pay for a repair or if I should buy this Sony and wait a least a year before buying a 4k OLED TV. Thank you for your very good work!
Unfortunately, we did not review your Pioneer, so we can't offer a direct comparison. Since it is a plasma TV, though, it's likely that the black levels and contrast ratio are much better than the W600B's, because LED TVs almost always have worse contrast.
It would probably cost a lot of money to repair your TV, so you'll be best served by buying a new one. The W600B has good contrast and uniformity for an LED TV, but its motion blur is pretty average - you may notice trails on fast-moving objects. Also, don't forget that OLED TVs are quite pricey, and will continue to be expensive for a while. You might end up having to wait longer than a year to get a decent deal.
I have a question about the W630B. On Best Buy's website it shows that the maximum resolution of this TV is 1024 x 1080. I think this is a misprint and should be 1920 x 1080. I've never heard of 1024 x 1080. Thanks.
Yes, that is a misprint. The resolution is 1920 x 1080.
I'm looking for a 48-inch LED TV to use with a directional outdoor antenna. Must be capable of scanning and adding additional channels without deleting channels previously added. Also, must be able to select a channel for viewing by entering the one or two digit channel number without having to enter the decimal and suffix. What can you recommend?
The only TVs we have that can scan without losing saved channels are LG WebOS 2.0 models, and we didn't need to enter decimals with any of the TVs.